Eisernes Kreuz 2nd Class Unmarked.

**Agitatorn** · 01-28-2022, 10:10 AM

Hello,

i would apriciate your opinions on this Eisernes Kreuz 2nd Class,

no makers mark. Weight: 20,58g (without ribbon).

Looks to be 3 pieced.

Anyone know if its genuine and who made it?

Thanks

Best Regards Tobias

**Espenlaub Militaria** · 01-28-2022 10:10 AM

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**thecyclist64** · 02-01-2022, 05:49 PM

looks genuine to me, but no idea who the maker might be

**estrij** · 02-01-2022, 07:31 PM

I agree genuine. It has characteristics like the one from Katz & Deyhle (page 202-203 Book Mario Alt) Because the inner sides are rounded on both sides (front and back). But wait for more opinions

**Saladin** · 02-01-2022, 09:31 PM

Hello,
it does look like an original cross to me.
The frame looks like it could be a Steinhauer and Luck frame.
S&L delivered to over 20 different manufacturers so It would be difficult to pin down who made your cross in my opinion.
I do see a couple of stamping pellets on the bottom of the 8 on reverse it may be worth trying to track down the core maker of that example.

You could wile away a few hours on this database to see if it helps:
EK1-DNA

All the best
Doug

**Agitatorn** · 02-05-2022, 04:11 PM

Thank you all for the help

**NSDAP Sammler** · 02-05-2022, 04:28 PM

I'm sure, this is a period piece

The orange colored ribbon is excellent and quite rare.

**rbminis** · 02-05-2022, 04:46 PM

by NSDAP Sammler

The orange colored ribbon is excellent and quite rare.

IMO, it's not "rare", it's just an early ribbon.
Ralph.

**NSDAP Sammler** · 02-05-2022, 04:57 PM

by rbminis

IMO, it's not "rare", it's just an early ribbon.
Ralph.

One does not exclude the other. In any case, the orange ones are much rarer than the red ones.

**rbminis** · 02-05-2022, 06:00 PM

by NSDAP Sammler

One does not exclude the other. In any case, the orange ones are much rarer than the red ones.

I would not call them "rare", only less common than red ribbons.
I am sure there were plenty of crosses awarded early on in the war.
Ralph.

**NSDAP Sammler** · 02-05-2022, 06:27 PM

by rbminis

I would not call them "rare", only less common than red ribbons.
I am sure there were plenty of crosses awarded early on in the war.
Ralph.

Everyone defines "rarely" differently. If I look at the relevant Militaria dealer websites, you can buy entire boxes of red ribbons from a number of them. I've never seen boxes full of orange ribbons. Especially since there are also very early pieces that don't have orange ribbons. I also have one that has a slightly lighter red ribbon but it's not orange.

Band für Eisernes Kreuz 2.Klasse 1939. Original konfektionierter Absc, 19,00 €