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05-20-2023 10:49 PM
# ADS
Circuit advertisement
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Welcome. The EK guys should be around shortly to comment
"Please", Thank You" and proper manners appreciated
My greatest fear is that one day I will die and my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them
"Don't tell me these are investments if you never intend to sell anything" (Quote: Wife)
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This Eisernes Kreuz 1 Klasse is attributed to Walter & Henlein PKZ 109. The problem is that this manufacturer never had a PKZ/LDO "license" to produce first-class crosses, and 99% of these crosses flow (dug out of the ground) from the Czech Republic, supposedly from the site after the location of this manufacturer's factory. According to some collectors, this is a post-war production.
Robert
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Very pertinent comment! thank you robert
I just think his frame looks so new!
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The frame doesn't seem to match the deterioration of the core, that's for sure. I would be sceptical about this. Iron cores will rust faster than the frames but this frame and core look too much at odds with each other. The screwback disc is also looking decidedly mismatched. If these were together in the ground, why is there no evidence on the back of the frame? I wouldn't be buying this as a relic or otherwise.
Looking for LDO marked EK2s and items relating to U-406.....
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Adrian
The frame doesn't seem to match the deterioration of the core, that's for sure. I would be sceptical about this. Iron cores will rust faster than the frames but this frame and core look too much at odds with each other. The screwback disc is also looking decidedly mismatched. If these were together in the ground, why is there no evidence on the back of the frame? I wouldn't be buying this as a relic or otherwise.
YES INDEED! I think this is really strange. If it is dug up, the back of this medal looks too new. At the same time, there is no manufacturer's mark. I guess it is very unusual in this type of EK1
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Not all EKs were marked, it's not unusual so that in itself should not be used to authenticate an award.
It's not uncommon for known fakes to be aged artificially, buried to hide the fact they are fakes. They then appear on the market as being 'found in Stalingrad' or in Normandy or 'close to the location of Hitler's bunker'.
Looking for LDO marked EK2s and items relating to U-406.....
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Adrian
Not all EKs were marked, it's not unusual so that in itself should not be used to authenticate an award.
It's not uncommon for known fakes to be aged artificially, buried to hide the fact they are fakes. They then appear on the market as being 'found in Stalingrad' or in Normandy or 'close to the location of Hitler's bunker'.
The "'close to the location of Hitler's bunker" made me laugh so hard
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