Question about Eisernes Kreuz 1. Klasse Imperial

[MigMig]

Hello to all.

I have a question about the Iron Cross 1st Class and the Ribbon of the Iron Cross 2nd Class. On the tunic is a ribbon of an Iron Cross of the 2nd class of the period of the 3rd Reich, and an imperial Iron Cross of the 1st class. Is this correct? Why did the officer place awards like this on a photo? How it is regulated by law, by order?

Maybe photos of examples of wearing these awards?

Thank you.

[rbminis]

I have moved this from the Data Base, to the discussion part of this section.
Please post in the correct section next time.
Also, please remember.
The Use of German Terminology.
Ralph.

[MigMig]

I have moved this from the Data Base, to the discussion part of this section.
Please post in the correct section next time.
Also, please remember.
The Use of German Terminology.
Ralph.

Sorry.
Next time I'll look for the right section

[Chopperman]

I see a couple of possibilities.
Assuming that the 1914 Eiserne kreuz is correct, that would mean that
he would have also been awarded the 1914 Ek2 which should be in the button hole
and above the Ek1 should be a 1939 spange 2nd class.

He may have lost the spange or just preferred the look of the red/black ribbon.

My guess is that it was never supposed to be a 1914 Ek1 and that the 1939 cross was
missing and whoever put this tunic together used whatever Ek they could find
for a cheap price------Just my opinion.

Vince knows more about this stuff than I do so hopefully he will see this thread
and share an idea.

[humble collector]

I really like this uniform!!! It’s past salty

[MigMig]

My guess is that it never supposed to be a 1914 Ek1 and that the 1939 cross was
missing and whoever put this tunic together used whatever Ek they could find
for a cheap price------Just my opinion.

Vince knows more about this stuff than I do so hopefully he will see this thread
and share an idea.

As I understand it, the ribbon must be imperial. Yes, you are right 2 options ....

1. so the owner wanted,
2. so they assembled the tunic.
I have doubts about the originality of this scheme. Or the wrong cross or ribbon. Need wait, more comments. It's very interesting to understand what it is.

Thank you

[Pauls1970]

Would be nice to see overall picture of tunic... maybe a ribbon bar is present ?
Paul

[MigMig]

Would be nice to see overall picture of tunic... maybe a ribbon bar is present ?
Paul

Here is one photo. I haven't more photos

[Pauls1970]

Looks like fire/wartime bombing damage, the badges look to have soot on ?
Possibility it was at owners residence in Germany, subsequently came under attack, aerial or ground troops, family member rescued it when safe ? You can see the ribbon bar loops, maybe that was the owner's WW1 EK2 ribbon bar or as suggested by Greg the EK2 ribbon is original to the tunic & the badges were added later, I was also wondering why the cut in the EK ribbon, surely it might have been ripped from it's stitching on the inside ? Certainly looks interesting & a project to restore the tunic !
Cheers
Paul

[CBH]

I agree with Paul, 1914EK ribbon on a bar would make sense.