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Article about: Hi guys, Found this nice bomber photo today and was curious about the insignia. Sadly it doesn´t show up so well in this photo but if anyone could please help in giving me a couple of clues

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    Hi guys,

    Found this nice bomber photo today and was curious about the insignia. Sadly it doesn´t show up so well in this photo but if anyone could please help in giving me a couple of clues I would be very thankful.

    Best,

    Jan
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    Kampfgeschwader 30. I'm already bidding on this one due to my personal interest in the unit

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    Saw this panel for sale..

    Farlam Airframes PRE 1945

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    Quote by The Devil's Bank View Post
    Saw this panel for sale..

    Farlam Airframes PRE 1945
    Modern artwork on original aircraft parts? That's a weird concept. Not something I would do honestly...

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    Here you go I , I scanned a photo and relevant text out of one of my old books.
    German Bombers over England - Bryan Philpott - 1978
    Hope this is of some help to you.
    Cheers Rick

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    Quote by The Devil's Bank View Post
    Saw this panel for sale..

    Farlam Airframes PRE 1945
    One for the displayer of quasi original relics for sure, but something any serious collector would cringe at !!!
    " I used to be indecisive but now I'm not quite sure "

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    Here is one more KG30 photo and text I found in this book.
    Hope it helps , its a great photo
    Cheers Rick

    Help with insignia on German bomber

    Help with insignia on German bomber

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    Here´s another Dornier photo (Do17 Z1) from the same photo lot.

    The plane bears the insignia for the Finnish Bomber Squadron 46 (Pommituslentolaivue 46 or PLeLv46) is one of 15 that were given as a personal gift by Hermann Goering to the Finnish Airforce in 1941.

    Best,

    Jan
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    I was able to win the original photo (even though the price got a bit salty in the end). Will post a better picture of it here when it arrives.

    There are some KG 30 shots on pages 127 and 129 of Hannu Valtonen's Luftwaffe Pictorial (Keski-Suomen Ilmailumuseon julkaisuja 7, 1998). I would recommend digging into his work if you are even just a little bit interested in wartime air operations of the Arctic front - some excellent research and reference material there

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    Here it is.

    I happened to find another, slightly larger version of this particular photo online (along with a 3rd shot of the same aircraft), which means the example I bought is not the only one out there. The flight simulator site I found the picture on says it was taken in 1941 at "Puri" (Pori) - I think most likely during a transfer mission.

    This particular emblem with the red background belongs to II./KG 30. The identification code of the aircraft in the back is for 6./KG 30 which was indeed part of II Gruppe.

    According to H. Valtonen, 6 Staffel of KG 30 arrived at Kirkenes in June 1941 and moved to southern Norway in August. From December 1941 to April 1942 II./KG 30 served elsewhere before returning to Luftflotte 5. In November the whole unit was sent to the Mediterranean.

    The aircraft is most certainly a Junkers Ju 88 A-1 or -5 with the correct engines for those variants. Of interest is the retrofitted 20 mm MG FF cannon sticking out of the nose. According to the source site, the aircraft code of this particular Ju 88 was 4D+LP (4D being the prefix for KG 30 aircraft and the last P for 6 Staffel). This would definitely make sense as the bomber in the background is 4D+KP.

    I did not find any Ju 88s with the WNr "4376" (see nose) on Valtonen's list of accidents and casualties of the LW in Finland and N. Norway 1941-1944.

    To sum it up: it's a Ju 88 A-5 or A-1 of 6./KG 30 sitting, reportedly, at Pori airfield in 1941

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