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Article about: Neat little brass item made from pommel of naval dagger.Marked Paun Klent,which I believe was a Hitler Youth camp.Ever see these? Thanks for looking. Steve

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    Neat little brass item made from pommel of naval dagger.Marked Paun Klent,which I believe was a Hitler Youth camp.Ever see these?
    Thanks for looking.
    Steve
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    Hello,
    Never saw one like this before but I have to say the eagle on this piece is looks weird to me & not very detailed. Not something I would particularly want in my collection. Not being a collector of kriegsmarine items maybe others will like this piece but to me it just doesn't look right. And if this was from a HJ camp wouldn't it make more sense to have some sort of HJ related insignia. Again, just my opinion,
    Duzig(Bill)

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    Quote by Duzig View Post
    Hello,
    Never saw one like this before but I have to say the eagle on this piece is looks weird to me & not very detailed. Not something I would particularly want in my collection. Not being a collector of kriegsmarine items maybe others will like this piece but to me it just doesn't look right. And if this was from a HJ camp wouldn't it make more sense to have some sort of HJ related insignia. Again, just my opinion,
    Duzig(Bill)
    Back then an eagle was an eagle. The only way people could generally tell what it would have come off of is if they compared the 2 pieces in hand with their own eyes or the maker of the dagger comes along. So IMO no problem with the connection, although I can't tell you wether or not its original or not.

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    Quote by Gimmie View Post
    Back then an eagle was an eagle.
    Sorry, I disagree.
    Why are the SS, SA, Heer, Luftwaffe, NSKK, etc. eagles all different if they could not tell the difference?
    Ralph.
    Searching for anything relating to, Anton Boos, 934 Stamm. Kp. Pz. Erz. Abt. 7, 3 Kompanie, Panzer-Regiment 2, 16th Panzer-Division (My father)

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    I don't know about an eagle being an eagle back then. If I was in the Hitler Youth & this was an award for a HJ event or something I think that the type of eagle on it would be indicative of the organization the participant belonged to. Again, just my opinion & I'd like to hear others.
    Duzig(Bill)

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    Quote by rbminis View Post
    Sorry, I disagree.
    Why are the SS, SA, Heer, Luftwaffe, NSKK, etc. eagles all different if they could not tell the difference?
    Ralph.
    I mean for something simple as an ornament.

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    Quote by Gimmie View Post
    I mean for something simple as an ornament.
    I still disagree.
    The TR era was the epitome of ornamentation and even a table ornament would have to be appropriate for the group involved.
    Ralph.
    Searching for anything relating to, Anton Boos, 934 Stamm. Kp. Pz. Erz. Abt. 7, 3 Kompanie, Panzer-Regiment 2, 16th Panzer-Division (My father)

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    Bingo! I agree 100% with you Ralph. To me it would only make sense to have an eagle appropriate to the group involved. And as you say the TR era was the epitome of ornamentation. Symbols were extremely important to the ideology.
    Duzig(Bill)

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    Looks like it was thrown together - a post 45 item - not for me.
    Horst
    "He who hesitates is lost - is not only lost but miles from the next exit"

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    The pommel looks like it's a WKC design judging by the one shown here.

    https://www.warrelics.eu/forum/krieg...-w-k-c-483459/

    Regards, Ned.
    'I do not think we can hope for any better thing now.
    We shall stick it out to the end, but we are getting weaker of course, and the end cannot be far.
    It seems a pity, but I do not think I can write more. R. SCOTT.
    Last Entry - For God's sake look after our people.'

    In memory of Capt. Robert Falcon Scott, Edward Wilson, Henry Bowers, Lawrence Oates and Edgar Evans. South Pole Expedition, 30th March 1912.

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