1957 Knights Cross

**OldAldy** · 07-08-2021, 10:59 PM

I'm new to the forum and definitely no expert in militaria. I recently picked up this 3 piece construction 57 Knights cross for a few £. It has a magnetic centre, the join lines are visible, the guy I bought it from said he had polished the frame which had been very tarnished. It weighs around 23 grammes. There are no markings on the frame.

I'm in no way a serious collector but the cross interested me. I have a genuine cased S&L very late production KC which I bought direct from them in 2018/19 which is really poor quality (however genuine it might be). This other cross seems to be much nicer than the S&L piece.

I'm pretty sure it's a fake but any opinions would be welcomed.

**Espenlaub Militaria** · 07-08-2021 10:59 PM

We also buy and trade your items and full collections!

**Danmark** · 07-09-2021, 04:36 AM

Didn't know they faked these??

Can you show your S & L one - however poor, it would be appreciated.

**OldAldy** · 07-09-2021, 08:14 AM

Hi,

Yes no problem. I actually have it packed away as we are moving house however here are hopefully some better pics. You can see the poor soldering and finish. I think I paid around £100 for it with the case and ribbon but from initial contact to receiving it took around 6 months or so. One of the S&L people suggested I would need a collectors licence which I found a little odd.

I contacted them shortly after receiving it in regard to the poor soldering but got no reply!

I'm told now by S&L that they no longer supply them.

Cheers,
Paul

**Danmark** · 07-09-2021, 08:47 AM

Yes, this would certainly NOT passed muster 15 years earlier!!!!!

**OldAldy** · 07-09-2021, 09:17 AM

the recent purchase

**KMMorris** · 07-09-2021, 11:18 AM

by Danmark

Didn't know they faked these??

Can you show your S & L one - however poor, it would be appreciated.

Lots of these 1957 fakes on ebay sadly Dan

**HARRY THE MOLE** · 07-09-2021, 12:43 PM

The first Knights cross looks like an S&L 1980's piece. I'm a bit suspicious of the previous owners claim to have polished away tarnishing, as the frame actually looks like it had a frosted finish to it originally - visible in the images of it in the case. As for the second example, if it was purchased directly from S&L, you cannot really call it a fake 57er. It is just one of the very poor quality medals they made for the collectors market in later years.

Cheers,
Steve

**OldAldy** · 07-09-2021, 04:43 PM

Hi Steve,

Sorry for the confusion. The last two pictures of the one in the case in the first post are of the the actual S&L piece, as are all those in the second post.

The last post, and the other non cased pics in post one are of the piece I just bought which had been polished.

Cheers,
Paul