Never seen the likes! Austrian cockade? Certainly not DAK!!!! or Army
Can confirm this has nothing to do with the DAK. It looks to be a Frankenstein item cobbled together.
Hello.
The construction appears quite cheap and i'd say the cap is not very old.
The cap most likely started its life as something else; e.g a simple biker cap or something like the image below. Then someone has attached the military items to embellish the look of it. We may never know.
I'd like to see better images of the bird too.
Last edited by christek; 11-11-2020 at 08:09 AM.
I think you are correct Morris.
I agree, Austrian Police probably '50s - '60s.
If you look under the sweatband at the front and sides you may be able to see the holes from the original Austrian insignia which were attached with wire prongs.
(Sometimes the badge at the side, which if I recall correctly indicates the station/district, was stitched through two holes in the left and right edges rather than prongs which can make it harder to spot)
I don't beliive there is any hope of the eagle being a genuine piece either.
Even if you could find original Austrian insignia to restore it to the correct configuration I doubt it would be worth the effort.
Don't think this was ever near the desert let alone the DAK.
Sorry
Mark
Last edited by Watchdog; 11-11-2020 at 09:10 AM. Reason: Typo
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Mark I thought it looked period but I know nothing about visor caps of this kind. I'll have my brother take some photos of the eagle, it may not be any good either. I thought posted initially that I thought it "looked good (kind of) because it is old, but I could never find any pictures of it years and years ago which made me suspicious of it. I posted it as DAK simply because that is what he was told. I appreciate the responses, they are what I expected to hear. I am glad we can and or are in the right direction of what the cap was originally. He has another one a black one with red piping someone faked into an officers crusher cap but when they were done they forgot about the buttons on either side had cannons and the British crown on them. Took me 5 seconds to tell him what it was. Our friend bought it like that, I identified it and he gave it to my brother. Not one I am going to post anywhere on here, just another one like the first one I posted. I feel kind of bad, the hat I posted in the thread is so bad makes me feel kind of like an idiot for posting it to begin with. Should have just stuck with my suspicion.
Hi SimonSorenKam,
don't feel bad! Every post helps others who aren't very deep in this subject.
KMMoris, christek and Watchdog, you are absolutely right, this is an Austrian Gendarmerie Verkehrsdienst (traffic) visor cap of the 1960ies (later caps already had the edged version of a plastic-covered leather peak/visor). The badge at the side should be a flaming grenade indicationg Gendarmerie. Austrian police had an eagle's head behind a brick wall and a green centerband. Christek: your photo shows a cap for "Dienstführende Beamte" with embroidered insignia.
What is interesting, is that it has the small police cockade instead of the bigger Gendarmerie-cockade.
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