LW Schirmmütze

[MigMig]

Hello.
Please, may someone to say, this Visor cap is original?
Is this a pilot color or another service?

[ErWeSa]

Hi,

for being able to tell whether this is an original cap I would need pictures of the interior, ideally from behind the sweatband.
From these pictures (exterior pictures alone can deceive) it looks good, the eagle seems to be reapplied and the centerband a bit narrow for the Schwingen.

As this cap features silvery piping (Silbergespinstlitze - Flachlitze) it is impossible to tell which branch of service the officer (officers had silvery piping contrary to EM/NCO's which had Waffenfarbe-piping) belonged to (unless there is a name tag with branch slid inside the gap of the sweatshield which was meant for that purpose).

[MigMig]

This photo inside of Visor cap. First. I haven't more photos.
I can ask more, but I saw in another sites this Cap for propaganda officers

Second photos is another Visor cap
Please look it . I see some defects in second Visor, but I like more the second Visor cap. Second is for pilots, I am thinking.
What is Your choice with the same price? )))

[ErWeSa]

With the first one I have still many doubts - the inside view shows a visor/peak without the cross-hatch that I would have expected, a peculiar sweatband and sweatshield. Why this should be for propaganda I don't know - it's an officer's cap with silvery piping. All officers had this kind of piping, regardless which branch of service they belonged to. Without the matching tunic or other proof you simply can't tell.
The second one looks good. Its a CeHa (= Carl Halfar) Prima sold by the Verkaufsabteilung der Luftwaffe. I don't know why there is a second distributor mark in the cap - Ernst Priebe, a vendor of uniforms. Perhaps he bought caps from the Verkaufsabteilung and retailed them together with uniforms. Anyway, Priebe did exist, here is the entry from the 1940 Berlin adressbook:




Here is another example of a CeHa cap for you to compare:

Luft Officers Visor

[MigMig]

Hello! I am very glad for your comment. I don't like the first one because there is no manufacturer inside. I don't want this. Now I understand what to do. Need LW Visor cap. About colors, here is a table by service colors. And on the Weitze website, it says that the cap is for the propaganda service. Thank you for the answer.

I don't like that the cap is damaged, but I think I'll buy it.

Rick's Hat Check Room.

[MigMig]

And one more question, I'll bother you. Is this Visor cap original?
This Visor cap is real expensive, I don't want to make mistake )))

[ErWeSa]

Hello! I am very glad for your comment. I don't like the first one because there is no manufacturer inside. I don't want this. Now I understand what to do. Need LW Visor cap. About colors, here is a table by service colors. And on the Weitze website, it says that the cap is for the propaganda service. Thank you for the answer.

I don't like that the cap is damaged, but I think I'll buy it.

Rick's Hat Check Room.

The cap on the Weitze site has, if you take a close look, silvery piping around the crown and two rings of piping made of grey-looking fabric around the centerband. I don't know whether something like this has existed, Bob Lyons would know, he is the LW-specialist.

As I am no PL-leader specialist I don't dare to give a verdict on the PL cap. Better wait for the PL specialists.

[stonemint]

The first (unmarked) LW is an Alteste fake from the 1960s.
Halfar is good.
THe PL looks good as well, but the sweatband might be a replacement.

[MigMig]

Friends, thank you for your valuable opinions. The first Visor cap, I was not sure, especially since I found several fake badges that are selling as original on that site. With the cap, N2, everything is clear, it has defects, but I think I'll buy. The question is, how can I find a Visor NSDAP specialist? How do I find an NSDAP Visor cap specialist? My tape is called LW and He may not come here. I have + one question about NSDAP Visor cap to him. The seller says this cap is GAU level. Is it true? I looked at Weize shop , there is selling Gauleitung Level cap, I am thinking it the same what I show my photos

Thank yo very much

NSDAP Schirmmutze fur Politische Leiter der Gauleitung (351950) - Troisieme Reich 1933-1945 - Couvre-chefs du III eme Reich & Seconde Guerre Mondiale - Antiquites Militaires

[ErWeSa]

The colour of the piping of the cap in question seems purple on these photos. I had the same problem when I checked for a similar cap. Colors of the piping changed, as did insignia and shape in the course of time. Gauleiter wore bright red at some time, wine red at another. Instead of waiting for a specialist, make one out of yourself, see here: Post Your NSDAP Political Hats! - fortunately the search function works again so that I could find the thread again. The cap seems indeet to be Gauleitung, form IV, see post # 16, 94, 102, 109....
Also the dark-brown sweatband seems not unusual.