Are these 2 SA kepis original?

[Riverroad99]

Hello, I have 2 Sturmabteilung kepis, and I was wondering if they are genuine originals (the sellers told me they were real). One is from Sachen Gruppe, it has an early adler on it but it is very small, about the size for a child or a very small adult. The second kepi is from the Berlin gruppe, it is normal sized but it has no tag and is very salty. I also don't know if the chinstrap is original, but it looks like it's been around the block, also the adler is well worn. Thank you for your time, any input is welcome.

[ErWeSa]

Can't really help as I am no specialist for these (I rather like them what concerns the materials) but by "bumping" the thread. I would like to know myself whether these are authentic and thus learn a little more.

[stonemint]

The Sachsen (green) kepi is original.

The Berlin has some issues that I see, in that the wool Gruppenfarbe appears to have been added after the hat was made.
Chinstrap & buttons are incorrect.
For EM/NCO rank kepis, I don't like to see linings.
It could be a pre-RZM example that was brought up to date with the introduction of the black 'farbe, but as I told the OP, it is only a possibility in my mind.