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Article about: Hello all, today I went to an estate sale near me and found what I believe is a WW2 era flat hat, though its been hard to find information on dating the contract number. Overall the wool is

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    Hello all, today I went to an estate sale near me and found what I believe is a WW2 era flat hat, though its been hard to find information on dating the contract number. Overall the wool is in good condition except for a small spot on the top which has something stuck to it, and the leather band has some cracking and creases. There is a naval clothing tag underneath the leather band which has the name, service number, and contract number. I have not been able to find anything on the previous owner so far but I'm sure something will pop up eventually. I've always wanted to get one of these to complete a dress uniform I got a few years ago. Thank you for reading and for any information!

    Name: Finnegan R. T.
    Service no. 491-92-18
    Contract No. DA-30-352-TAP-1933
    Size 6 3/4
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    Nice hat! Hope you find additional information.
    John

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    Nice cap! but is post WW2. Here's a link to give an idea on how to date a service number.

    Service number (United States Navy) - Wikipedia
    Regards
    René

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    Great catch Rene' I did not give the number a 2nd look. Good link as well. I learned me something today! All hope is not lost.
    John

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    I found one of these in my late mothers house when we were cleaning it out.

    Nearly exactly the same but with a slightly different tag. Leather is to hard to photograph but contract number isQM (CTM) 10251-C-61. Leading me to believe is is a 1961 dated cap. But could be wrong
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    Thank you for the link Rene! I think your right that it is post WW2 from the late 40's early 50s based on the tag and "sweat guard" on the top. I guess my search for a WW2 era one continues but for the bundle deal I got for this another item I'm happy to have it.

    Michael I think you are right about your hat being from 1961, I was looking through USMF and another user had a cap from 1962 and the number after the C was said to be the year it was manufactured. I'll post a link to that thread below.

    US Navy flat hat..... real deal or repro? - UNIFORMS - U.S. Militaria Forum

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    Just expanding a little on contract codes, here's a list of some of the WW2 types found (forgot where I found this list)

    US Navy

    All contracts were awarded in numerical order starting with 1.Typically you see a contract example NXSX-12345 the
    N-meaning naval
    XS is the designation for the bureau of Supplies and Accounts which is the bureau that oversees all the contracting bureaus
    the last designation represents the cognizant bureau which the account is for so an NXSX means is that the Bureau of supplies and Accounts awarded a contract on representing themselves
    the other naval bureaus are as follows with their designation
    Aeronautics- A
    Supplies and Accounts-X
    Yards and Docks-Y
    Radio division-R
    Naval Personnel-P
    Other-S
    Medicine and Surgery-M
    Ordnance-O
    Secretary's Office-D
    you might see an NXSA which the contract was awarded through the Bureau of supplies and accounts for the bureau of aeronautics.so the series of contracts you will encounter are
    NXSX
    NXSA
    NXSY
    NXSR
    NXSP
    NXSS
    NXSM
    NXSO
    NXSD
    Most of the bureaus contract through themselves their designations are as follows
    Aeronautics-OA
    Yards and docks-OY
    Ships-OBS
    Naval Personnel-OP
    Ordnance-ORD
    Marine corps-OM
    Coast Guard-TCG
    you will see these contracting bureau prefixes
    NOA
    NOY
    NOBS
    NOP
    NORD
    NOM
    NTCG

    There are also contract prefixes you will encounter they are 288, 140,145 and a few others these numbers represent the procurement station within the naval department.I have only been able to identify the 288 prefix this Identifies Naval Aviation Supply Depot Philadelphia (NASD) these contracts represent contracts for the bureau of aeronautics.
    On a piece of naval equipment you rarely see a date only a contract number.It is possible to date a piece using the contract number.When you do see a date with a contract number that is the month/day/and fiscal year the contract was awarded not the actual date of manufacture but most likely within a few months.an example would be a date of Dec. 1943 is the fiscal year but the manufacturing carried over into 1944 so because your item is dated 1943 does not necessarily mean it was made in 1943.
    another contract prefix you will encounter is N5XS the represents the fiscal year [1945]when the series of contract numbers reached 99,999 and started over from 1.
    This is a series i put together for the NXSX contracts these cannot be used for any other contracting bureau as they use there own numerical system.You can use this by plugging in your contract number and find out approximately when your item was made.
    NXSX

    16868 oct. 1942
    19958 dec. 1942

    21747 jan. 1943
    23534 feb. 1943
    27612 april 1943
    28180 may 1943
    32566 jun. 1943
    37374 sept. 1943

    47990 jan. 1944
    51656 feb.1944
    55601 mar. 1944
    58293 apr. 1944
    63353 may 1944
    64856 jun. 1944
    71083 jul. 1944
    74718 aug. 1944
    77162 sep. 1944
    82724 oct. 1944
    87107 dec. 1944

    90338 jan. 1945
    93082 feb. 1945
    96119 mar. 1945
    98850 apr. 1945
    5sx 1974 may 1945
    5sx 7547 jul. 1945
    5sx 12406 aug. 1945

    here is an update they are not totally complete but should help
    NXSS:
    1687 3-42
    4217 4-42
    7740 6-42
    11928 8-42
    14079 9-42
    15015 10-42
    18466 11-42
    21824 1-43
    26505 3-43
    27168 4-43
    28504 5-43
    33385 6-43
    34738 7-43
    39910 9-43
    40695 10-43
    42644 12-43
    48178 1-44
    50286 2-44
    55322 3-44
    58215 4-44
    60848 5-44
    69361 6-44
    77132 9-44

    NXSA:
    17154 11-42
    22419 1-43
    29656 5-43
    39220 11-43
    44572 12-43
    49717 2-44
    62370 5-44
    73850 8-44
    87501 12-44
    87749 1-45
    NX5SA 6383 6-45

    NOA:
    327 2-43
    471 4-43
    992 6-43
    3071 2-44

    288s
    2231 2-42
    2827 3-42
    7545 10-42
    9575 12-42
    10907 2-43
    12549 3-43
    13174 4-43
    15000 6-43
    17304 10-43
    19055 12-43
    20396 2-44
    21627 3-44
    22480 4-44
    23192 5-44
    24513 7-44
    24986 8-44
    29393 2-45
    30304 4-45
    31909 5-45

    140s
    3335 5-42
    7475 7-42
    16782 2-43
    19931 5-43
    23194 6-43
    33038 9-43
    37799 12-43
    40627 2-44
    45809 6-44
    53135 9-44
    58624 11-44
    58639 12-44
    61836 1-45
    70239 5-45
    71746 6-45
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    René

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