Heer Artillery Schiffchen

**rbminis** · 10-09-2018, 05:02 AM

Since I had to remove my items from my display case recently, I took the opportunity to shoot a few photos.
Here is my Artillery soutached Heer Schiffchen. An earlier model without the vents. There is no mothing to this cap at all, virtually mint.
The only marking on the inside is the size.
Ralph.

**Espenlaub Militaria** · 10-09-2018 05:02 AM

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**bittaker** · 10-09-2018, 08:01 PM

Earlier? Does that mean around the time range 1938-40? Anyway, nice cap, Ralph!
Stig

**rbminis** · 10-09-2018, 09:21 PM

by bittaker

Earlier? Does that mean around the time range 1938-40? Anyway, nice cap, Ralph!
Stig

Thanks Stig!

Unfortunately, I am not that versed in clothing.

I was hoping that maybe someone would be willing to let me know what model this O/S cap is.
Ralph.

**Neil Hever** · 10-09-2018, 09:27 PM

I want one of those! NH

**MAP** · 10-10-2018, 02:30 AM

That is a spectacular example!

**rbminis** · 10-10-2018, 02:52 AM

by MAP

That is a spectacular example!

Thank you Michael!

This was one of my earlier purchases.
Ralph.

**TWS** · 10-10-2018, 03:56 AM

by rbminis

Unfortunately, I am not that versed in clothing.

I was hoping that maybe someone would be willing to let me know what model this O/S cap is.
Ralph.

Hi Ralph. I'm not an expert either but it appears to be an M34, which is what all basic Heer enlisted Schiffchen were. The officer's version came out in 1938, so we call it an M38 - I say "we" because my understanding is those designations were applied by collectors postwar and the soldiers at the time just called them Feldmuetze/Schiffchen. Then the Panzer and Tropicals came out in 1940, so people refer to them as M40's. And then of course the M42 with the two buttons for the fold down flaps which was unpopular with the soldiers. The fact that yours has the soutache would tend to indicate a slightly earlier cap. Thank goodness many soldiers ignored the order to remove it. Does yours have ventilation grommets? It doesn't appear to have them.