Expert here for Scharnhorstbund ?

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Hi.
is someone here who has done research on the Scharnhorstbund, the youth organisation of Der Stahlhelm?

I have got these insignias which leads me to a question.

You will notice the position of the crown in the small metal shield and the collar tabs.
I know that adult and teenage members of Scharnhorstbund were allowed to wear their uniforms and the insignia after being integrated in SA/HJ after 1933.
The metal emblem with the crown in the upper region of the shield is referred as "Traditionsabzeichen"-
am I right in assuming that all insignia and emblems with the crown in the middle of the shield are worn by Scharnhorstbund before 1933 and the emblems with the crown placed in the upper area of the shield are worn after 1933?

Who used the yellow arm-band Scharnhorst?
Did the adult leaders of Scharnhorst wear cloth patches of Scharnhorst or did they wear patches of Stahlhelmbund?