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1914 Eisernes Kreuz 2. Klasse

Article about: Hello All, I came across this WWI Era EK2. I was told it may have been a Third Reich era produced WWI Iron Cross. I do see the shape is somewhat more like the 1939 style Iron Cross, but WWI

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    Hello All,

    I came across this WWI Era EK2. I was told it may have been a Third Reich era produced WWI Iron Cross. I do see the shape is somewhat more like the 1939 style Iron Cross, but WWI Iron Crosses are not my forte, so it is hard for me to tell. Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.

    Height: 43.11mm
    Width: 42.65mm
    Core: Magnetic
    Weight: 17.91g

    1914 Eisernes Kreuz 2. Klasse1914 Eisernes Kreuz 2. Klasse

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    If so, it was likely made for an Imperial and TR medal bar.
    The ribbon ring is smaller than normal for a ribbon alone.
    Ralph.
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    Thanks for the info

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    Small ring indicates that it was made for a medal bar.
    The size of the cross does suggest TR period. Imperial crosses are usually closer to 41mm.
    gregM
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    Further research leads me to believe this may be a B.H.Meyer product. The head on photos are a bit deceptive, but the EK2 in question does actually have a lug for the jump ring. The inner beading corners, W, Dates and Crown match some of the B.H.Meyer variants posted on this forum by this maker. Of course that still leaves the question if this was a WWI or TR Era production to ponder.

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    Very well done piece of detective work.

    I just went through my files of Mayer marked crosses and I have to say that
    I think you nailed it.

    Looking at the few Mayer crosses that I have saved, they all seem to have the same
    distinctive characteristics in the corners. Most noticeable to me is the small crunched
    bead in upper right corner and then the misshaped beads in the opposite lower left bead.

    I am attaching a picture from my files of a cross with good examples of that.
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    gregM
    Live to ride -- Ride to live

    I was addicted to the "Hokey-Pokey" but I've turned
    myself around.

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    I also dug out my own Mayer marked cross and made a closeup
    scan of the inner corners hoping it will help confirm your suspicions.
    I also measured it at 42.9 tall by 42.6 wide. I'm fairly confident that these are ww1 issue crosses.

    --again, I am really impressed with your determination in figuring
    out the maker.
    Click to enlarge the picture Click to enlarge the picture 1914 Eisernes Kreuz 2. Klasse  
    gregM
    Live to ride -- Ride to live

    I was addicted to the "Hokey-Pokey" but I've turned
    myself around.

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    Thank you for the information, that is helpful.

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