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Pour Le Merite - Wagner

Article about: As a young boy in the early 70's, I obtained a cheap repo of a Pour Le Merite from Unique Imports. Since then, I have always wanted to add one to the collection. I held onto the Repo for 40+

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    Is this Silver gilt? It would put this as a war time made piece. And a W would I think indicate it being a Wagner and the numbers are 938 which is the silver content. But I'm NOT aware that Wagner use the Godet style Pie shape for the suspension ring. Only the Baroque style. I'm probably missing something if this is an original award. I'm no pro.
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    On the last PLM posted.
    The style of the eagles would indicate a "Rothe" made piece.
    Having it marked with a "W" is a big red flag IMO.

    I am no expert on these by any sense of the imagination. I would really
    suggest posting it on WAF or GMIC to get better, more educated opinions.
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    Quote by Chopperman View Post
    On the last PLM posted.
    The style of the eagles would indicate a "Rothe" made piece.
    Having it marked with a "W" is a big red flag IMO.

    I am no expert on these by any sense of the imagination. I would really
    suggest posting it on WAF or GMIC to get better, more educated opinions.
    I noticed too that the eagles were different than Wagners. but didn't know if it matched other makers.
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    My greatest fear is that one day I will die and my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them

    "Don't tell me these are investments if you never intend to sell anything" (Quote: Wife)

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    The thread starter is very nice PLM. Certainly postwar made from Wagner dies

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    Quote by GMU View Post
    Very nice PLM. Certainly postwar made from Wagner dies
    Thank you.
    "Please", Thank You" and proper manners appreciated

    My greatest fear is that one day I will die and my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them

    "Don't tell me these are investments if you never intend to sell anything" (Quote: Wife)

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    It depends on the black and white film used by the photographer. There is something called Orthochromatic effect, making the blue spectrum appear very light colored, almost white

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    Quote by GMU View Post
    It depends on the black and white film used by the photographer. There is something called Orthochromatic effect, making the blue spectrum appear very light colored, almost white
    Thanks George. If you have any to share, feel free to add them.
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    "Don't tell me these are investments if you never intend to sell anything" (Quote: Wife)

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    Thank you Michael. Here is an example of orthochromatic film effect on early b&w photography. This might explain the light colored PLMs that appear on b&w photos.


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    Thanks. Good article but so much better to have this chart.

    Is this mostly for glass plate photos? Or early paper based photos too?
    "Please", Thank You" and proper manners appreciated

    My greatest fear is that one day I will die and my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them

    "Don't tell me these are investments if you never intend to sell anything" (Quote: Wife)

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    Congrats on your acquisition, a really nice example. Here is my single-sided Meybauer example, on a pre-WW1 ribbon, which came out of a souvenir album in which it had been glued.
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