US M1917 5th Division Flashed Brodie
Article about: Despite me saying "No more helmets in 2016"....I have no broken that vow 4x's. So....Here is my first WW1 US helmet. An M1917 with a 5th Division Flash. Oilcloth is still soft. Chi
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You know more than me about helmets, buddy. I just know I like it.
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The holes would be for the Wilmer Eye-Shield, nice helmet Michael.
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relicz
The holes would be for the Wilmer Eye-Shield, nice helmet Michael.
Thanks John. Yes, you are correct. I have read that the holes are less common to find on a helmet but are not a 'value' enhancer
Any thoughts on the paint and flash?
"Please", Thank You" and proper manners appreciated
My greatest fear is that one day I will die and my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them
"Don't tell me these are investments if you never intend to sell anything" (Quote: Wife)
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Looks legitimate from here Michael, curiously - I've seen a similar "brown" colored overpaint on both CEF and AEF helmets.
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relicz
Looks legitimate from here Michael, curiously - I've seen a similar "brown" colored overpaint on both CEF and US helmets.
Thanks! Encouraging! Would be great if it was "in theater" paint job. But if not, no worries. Still a been there honest combat lid! Next I need to fiddle with my photo program to see if I can read the name.
"Please", Thank You" and proper manners appreciated
My greatest fear is that one day I will die and my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them
"Don't tell me these are investments if you never intend to sell anything" (Quote: Wife)
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That's a fantastic helmet. I have no doubts about its authenticity.
There are period photos of the 5th Division with painted helmets while they were stationed in Luxembourg shortly after the war.
It's always nice to see a painted Wilmer helmet from a division other than the 91st. Based on several I have seen with full unit IDs, it seems that most of the Wilmer helmets went to the division Trains.
They don't seem to command much of a premium, which is strange considering that only 35,000 were made.
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aef1917
That's a fantastic helmet. I have no doubts about its authenticity.
There are period photos of the 5th Division with painted helmets while they were stationed in Luxembourg shortly after the war.
It's always nice to see a painted Wilmer helmet from a division other than the 91st. Based on several I have seen with full unit IDs, it seems that most of the Wilmer helmets went to the division Trains.
They don't seem to command much of a premium, which is strange considering that only 35,000 were made.
AEF,
Thanks for the excellent information. Greatly appreciated. As noted this is my first so I'm still learning the ropes.
Picked it up at the local show on Sat. Doors opened at 9:00 and it was in my hands by 9:01.
A few questions if you don't mind (I'm an information hog) as I get my feet wet.
1) can you point me to a place where I can see some these pictures?
2) what do you mean by "division trains". A new term for me.
Thanks again for the information.
Michael
"Please", Thank You" and proper manners appreciated
My greatest fear is that one day I will die and my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them
"Don't tell me these are investments if you never intend to sell anything" (Quote: Wife)
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I can't find any of the photos online, but there are definitely some yardlongs taken in Luxembourg that show painted helmets.
The Trains were the logistical components of American divisions. There was typically an HQ Train, Sanitary Train, Ammunition Train and Engineer Train in each division. I think an analogous Commonwealth organization would be the Ammunition Column.
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Got it . Thought that's was you meant. So basically most of these helmets went to rear echelon troops.
Nice then to have one to a front line soldier. Do really need to see if I can read the name on the underside of the shell.
Thanks again
M
"Please", Thank You" and proper manners appreciated
My greatest fear is that one day I will die and my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them
"Don't tell me these are investments if you never intend to sell anything" (Quote: Wife)
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