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Article about: Hello, Looking for some help on this one. What does everyone think about the authenticity of this visor hat? Specifically, I do not see any maker mark on it. The eagle head looks a little we

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    Hello,
    Looking for some help on this one. What does everyone think about the authenticity of this visor hat? Specifically, I do not see any maker mark on it. The eagle head looks a little weird to me. It could just be the angle the person took the photos. Finally, the name tag inserted appears to be cloth. has anyone seen this before? Thanks for any input.
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    There are some nice little details that make me think the cap is O.K. - don't know a thing about insignia, though.

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    Thanks ErWeSa......Any idea if the name is an owners name or a makers name? Maybe someone else will chime in on the insignia then. At least the bullion on the insignia appears to match the bullion fading on the brim....Thanks again. I appreciate the opinion.

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    Wilke would be the wearer's name.

    If it was this one, this would be a find!: General der Artillerie Edmund Wachenfeld - Lexikon der Wehrmacht

    As I am no specialist for Kriegsmarine I don't know whether the embroidery on the bill would match his rank.

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    Visor looks good from these pix.
    “Show me the regulation, and I’ll show you the exception.”

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    Thanks Stonemint for the confirmation. And many Thanks Erwesa for that information. I guess the only possible clue would be if you or someone could give an approximate date for the visor? According to the information he was commander of Wilhelmshaven."Between April 1, 1922 and September 30, 1923" That would be the appropriate rank for this hat. However, he appeared to have retired December 31 of 1923 with the rank of admiral. Then the visor braid would not be correct past 1923. The swastika of course wasn't used until 1933 when the Nazi's came into power and according to your link it just states he made himself available in 1939 to the Navy but wasn't called up. so, My guess is its not That Wilke. However, it is not saying this guy wasn't related. I found a lot of times Admirals and Generals seem to get their children promoted to high positions as well. So definitely a clue.

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    Bear in mind that these name taghs were preoduced in theri thousands. Every sailor had a roll of these so he could add one to any items of clothing. Very easy to add one of these to a visor cap to make it more interesting. The Wilke referred to above was graded Rear Admiral in 1923 so the rank of this cap wouldn't suite him.
    I can't find any references to a Wilke in the rank range from Korvettenkapitän to Kapitän zur See. By the time of the 1944 rank list there is only one officer named Wilke, a Fritz Wilke who was only a Leutnant. There were a few other junior officers by the name of Wilke who were KIA and could not have reached the rank for this cap. Plenty of junior ranks and ordinary sailors though.

    I think there is a very high chance that this is a case of an original name tag added to an unrelated cap.

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    Thanks Redcap.....You probably saved me a lot of time as that was going to be my next thought. Trying to locate records of possible German Officers of the appropriate rank with that name. I thought there may have been a chance of being some relation to the Admiral Wilke. It wasn't uncommon for prominent people to get their family promotions.

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