1907 British Bayonet Markings
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1907 British Bayonet Markings
Hello,
I'm considering buying a 1907 Enfield bayonet on eBay but have stumbled across several problems with the markings.
It's a 1907 Sanderson bayonet but there are two inspection marks. One says 2D E and are on either side of the bending mark while another says IV E and is located above the bending mark. Both are accompanied by the overlapping circle symbol.There is also a faint set of numbers on the same side as the bending and inspection marks that look like "85" or something similar, though they are somewhat worn.
The other issue is the regimental markings. Although the blade is stamped with July of 1917, 2 Q.R.R is stamped onto the pommel. I thought it would be the Queen's Royal Rifles but not only did they receive that name in 1921, but the abbreviation would be W.SR. if it was. It could be O.R.R as well, as there is a rather deep scratch on the regimental abbreviation. There is also a 1 3 7 stamped below the regimental information, further adding to the mystery.
It may be possible that this whole piece is an elaborate fake, an inherent risk in using eBay. However, I do appreciate any help you can offer.
Item in question
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Re: 1907 British Bayonet Markings
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Babobeebo
Hello,
I'm considering buying a 1907 Enfield bayonet on eBay but have stumbled across several problems with the markings.
It's a 1907 Sanderson bayonet but there are two inspection marks. One says 2D E and are on either side of the bending mark while another says IV E and is located above the bending mark. Both are accompanied by the overlapping circle symbol.There is also a faint set of numbers on the same side as the bending and inspection marks that look like "85" or something similar, though they are somewhat worn.
The other issue is the regimental markings. Although the blade is stamped with July of 1917, 2 Q.R.R is stamped onto the pommel. I thought it would be the Queen's Royal Rifles but not only did they receive that name in 1921, but the abbreviation would be W.SR. if it was. It could be O.R.R as well, as there is a rather deep scratch on the regimental abbreviation. There is also a 1 3 7 stamped below the regimental information, further adding to the mystery.
It may be possible that this whole piece is an elaborate fake, an inherent risk in using eBay. However, I do appreciate any help you can offer.
Item in question
Here is my Sanderson Bayonet, its a Jul 1915 made bayonet without the oil hole. I think the bayonet on ebay is genuine, the Regimental markings may not be that, my bayonet has the letters 8SH 591 which means nothing to me, maybe there just a serial no? Anyway, heres the photo of mine. p.s. Cost me £25 in a junk shop.
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Re: 1907 British Bayonet Markings
Sorry, I made a slight mistake when speculating what the Q.R.R could stand for. Not the Queen's Royal Rifles but rather the Queen's Royal Regiment which, as it turns out, had the abbreviation of W.SR. You also make a good point in mentioning the uneven amounts of wear on the crown and then on the date/manufacturer. Perhaps this could be from use? Or maybe someone decided to add a bit of history to this particular bayonet.
It's a bit of a shame that a bayonet in such good condition should have as questionable markings as these. Maybe I could bring myself to ignore them
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