Polish Regimental Badges WW2
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11-08-2009, 06:22 PM
#111
Re: Polish Regimetal Badges WW2
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11-08-2009, 06:29 PM
#112
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11-08-2009, 06:38 PM
#113
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11-08-2009, 06:54 PM
#114
Re: Polish Regimetal Badges WW2
Interesting Badge !!!
The badge itself is a GR-TECH type, ... but the numbers stamped into the back are the Kirkwood type !.
I've checked the numbers 3, 7 and 4 against known Kirkwood impressions, and they all tally ok.
The Kirkwood spinner shows all the correct signs as well, even though it has been plated.
I suspect that this badge might possibly be from a run of GR-TECH badges that were left un-numbered, and at some point used from storage at Kirkwoods to make up the numbers in a pre-ordered batch. (The 330 - 500 run).
Normally, I would reject a cross over of badge types and numbering types, ...
......This is the one niggling question though,
......... the number fonts are a miss-match GR-TECH wing.
Gary J.
The one thing to bare in mind, is that the GR-TECH copies coming out of Poland are more or less spot on, ... AND sooner or later they will get the font style and numbering correct !
Personally, that is why I have always stuck to the two known basic variants with their unique numbering styles.
I'll leave my conclusion at that, .. even though I expect a thousand "If's ... buts and maybes" ...
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wadowicznic
Friends,
The Para Badge from my collection.
I have been told that first 500 badges had been kept in deposit of Polish High Command to be given to people who contributed to the formation / support of Para Forces and the Polish Cause overall.
This badge appears different from normal “K&S” issue with brass nut. This one appears to be brass made with silver cover – very hard to bend.
Can you please comment on the authenticy of this badge – looking forward to hearing your advice?
A
Last edited by Gary J; 11-08-2009 at 07:17 PM.
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11-08-2009, 07:27 PM
#115
Re: Polish Regimetal Badges WW2
Thanks G
Thanks G for judgement – impressive knowledge.
Perhaps some other colleagues on the forum will know some additional clues?
A
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Gary J
Interesting Badge !!!
The badge itself is a GR-TECH type, ... but the numbers stamped into the back are the Kirkwood type !.
I've checked the numbers 3, 7 and 4 against known Kirkwood impressions, and they all tally ok.
The Kirkwood spinner shows all the correct signs as well, even though it has been plated.
I suspect that this badge might possibly be from a run of GR-TECH badges that were left un-numbered, and at some point used from storage at Kirkwoods to make up the numbers in a pre-ordered batch. (The 330 - 500 run).
Normally, I would reject a cross over of badge types and numbering types, ...
......This is the one niggling question though,
......... the number fonts are a miss-match GR-TECH wing.
Gary J.
The one thing to bare in mind, is that the GR-TECH copies coming out of Poland are more or less spot on, ... AND sooner or later they will get the font style and numbering correct !
Personally, that is why I have always stuck to the two known basic variants with their unique numbering styles.
I'll leave my conclusion at that, .. even though I expect a thousand "If's ... buts and maybes" ...
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11-08-2009, 08:43 PM
#116
Re: Polish Regimetal Badges WW2
Gary,
why do you think that it is Gr Tech badge?
In my opinion it is a Kirkwood badge - late production ("broken" eagle's wing).
Rafal
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11-08-2009, 10:08 PM
#117
Re: Polish Regimetal Badges WW2
Rafal,
The deep "V" shape where the wings meet is the classic Gr-Tech shape from the die, ....
I see what you mean about the later "broken wing" !
But the wing itself does not show any of the Kirkwood die flaws !
I think I would stick to it being a wing being struck from the GR-TECH style die.
Regards
Gary J.
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11-09-2009, 02:14 AM
#118
Re: Polish Regimetal Badges WW2
Newb Alert... Can you guys explain what I'm looking for to designate what a late war 'broken wing' kirkwood would be? Am only just getting to grips with GR-tech and kirkwood, Are they the only two makers?
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11-09-2009, 07:59 AM
#119
Re: Polish Regimetal Badges WW2
Mark,
Yes they are the only two manufacturers.
All other variants .. ie. in silver (marked Birmingham) etc. are NOT official issues.
Gary J.
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mark_palmer17
Newb Alert... Can you guys explain what I'm looking for to designate what a late war 'broken wing' kirkwood would be? Am only just getting to grips with GR-tech and kirkwood, Are they the only two makers?
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11-09-2009, 10:00 AM
#120
Re: Polish Regimetal Badges WW2
Gary,
you are right with V shape. But I saw K&S badge with V shape - probably personally made by owner.
Concerning "broken" eagle: all K&S badges with numbers approx. over 4700 has eagles' left wings "broken" (not sharp like earlier). The reason may be a result of die's damage (?).
Greetings
Rafal
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