LW officer visor Erel

[history89]

Hello.
What s your opinion about this LW officer visor please?
Period sewns, authenticity?
Thanks a lot

[BobS]

Looks like an authentic Erel to me, in quite good condition.

BobS

[ErWeSa]

I am with BobS. Apart from the fact that the eagle suffers from Zinkfraß (i. e. the buillon threads are corroding) it's a nice ErEl, one of those the sweatshield of which do not have the opening for the name tag.
Pour les francophones: je pense, moi aussi, que c'est une bonne ErEl. La seule chose qui dérangerait les puristes c'est l'aigle qui souffre de corrosion.
Le mica de protection est intéressant en ci qui concerne la fente pour l'étiquette pour le nom du propriétaire qui manque - ce qui est typique pour les ErEl d'une certaine période.

[history89]

Thanks Erwesa ou merci beaucoup pour le Français c est encore mieux
I look forward to your opinion. The little problem with the eagle doesn't disturb me much so I will go with this cap.
The Mika detail is typical of which period please?
Thanks you and thanks BobS too

[TWS]

Looks like a fine original to me too. You can check carefully under the sweatband. A lot of eReL Luftwaffe visors are date stamped under the sweatband.

[ErWeSa]

There is some info on that matter here:

question about 'offizier kleiderkasse berlin' cap by erel

I would have supposed from ca. 1942 onwards this was done, before the sweatshields didn't have any inked-in maker marks (but embossed to the lining).

Funnily enough ErEl seems to have had enough material for sweatshields (contrary to other firms which gave up sewing them in) to the very end:

The Late-Late War Erel Visor (aka the "M-45&quot

[history89]

Thanks ErWeSa.
Very interesting.
So probably mine is between 42-45.
Do you think mine is M45 model?
Thanks yet and yet

[ErWeSa]

No, I don't think so - the materials are too good, the sweatband still is the patented one - I can't see wheter there still is the air vent at the front as the cockade of the insigne doesn't have the red mesh in its centre (which was necessary to grant ventilation through this air vent). The visor still is the edged version with green underside. So I'd say rather around 1942 - but don't pin me down on that, wait for the specialists who possess similar versions for a more accurate estmiation.

[TWS]

Here is one of mine for reference. A July, 1941 dated example. Sadly, it also suffers from oxidation to the bullion eagle.

[history89]

No, I don't think so - the materials are too good, the sweatband still is the patented one - I can't see wheter there still is the air vent at the front as the cockade of the insigne doesn't have the red mesh in its centre (which was necessary to grant ventilation through this air vent). The visor still is the edged version with green underside. So I'd say rather around 1942 - but don't pin me down on that, wait for the specialists who possess similar versions for a more accurate estmiation.

ErWeSa thank you very much your explanations have already been a great help to me , Now I know more about my future cap.