Postwar M1 Shells- Correct me if I am wrong
Article about: Recently, I have been diving head first into reading/learning about M1 helmets, specifically post war used/produced helmets. During this process, I have found that a lot of crucial/specific
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ruddersrangers44
it still amazes me how the vast majority of M1 collectors completely dismiss the 40 plus years post ww2 that this iconic Helmet stayed in service.
I hear this. These men fought just as hard as in WWII (Chosin Reserve, La Drang ... to name .0003 percent LOL). Personally for me I did sell off all my Post War M1 helmets... just comes down to room on the shelf and the type of Helmets I collect. I don't collect Post WWII German either. My personal collecting interest lies firmly within WWII. But as far and reading and studying 20th century conflict and being in awe of these guys? My interest runs the whole Gamut.
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Just a little update to this thread.
Post-WWII McCord heat stamps
The link posted above discusses how to tell the difference between the post ww2 McCord heat stamps. Very good info.
And just to keep as much info about post ww2 M1's in one spot, I will quote post #34 by twthmoses on March 19, 2022:
"I know mention before. The A-B-C etc. is the lift, the subdivision of a heat. The heat being one pot of molted iron purred into an ingot. One has to remember that it is not the shell producer, McCord, or any other producer for that matter, that subdivides the heat, it is the steel manufacture. The lot stamp, like 123A, is the shells producers’ representation of the steels manufactures heat and lifts numbers. I am sure some form of alignment of requirements has occurred between steel manufactures and shell produces beforehand, but to the shell producer it is really indifferent if you get 10000 discs of one heat subdivided or not. You just need to know, if you want to apply your own stamp for traceability. Either way the shell producer get the metal as discs.
Post-war McCord had five M1 contracts. Three in early 50s (51-53), a double contract in 1958 and one in 1965. Roughly 1.9 mill shells in all. Note, Motor Wheel got a M1 contract in May 1952 (production started in Sep 1952 at the Duo-Therm division plant No. 4, at Lansing, Michigan). They are not a sub-contractor to McCord. Essentially, there are no Korean War US produced M1 helmet. All contracts was award after the stalemate in Korea. Do not get me wrong plenty of fighting, bombing and shooting during the last two years of the Korean War, but the big movement faze of the first year was done using only WW2 helmets.
McCord Lot stamps from M-1A to about M-210A is from the 51-53 contracts. There is no subdivision of these heats, all are A. Lot M-211-A to about M-305-A are from the 1958 contract. Its a slightly different stamp, one more dash. There is no subdivision of these heats, all are A. From 305 to about 345 is from the 1965 contract. Stamp are displayed different, now they look like “M 305 A”. No “–“and a spacing between number and letter. These stamps have lifts of A, B and C. I do not know the exact division between 51-53, 58 and 65 contract; I simply do not have enough samples to compare with. But they are within plus/minus 5-10 lots as stated above. Note, as McCord WW2 stamps there are errors. Statistic determines that there must be error, and there are. You can find lot stamps like –M267-A (58 stamp) or M167-A (51-53 stamp), or double stamps or stamps in weird places etc. I would be more than happy to see posted weird stamps. I love them."
All credit goes to him and the others who worked to get this information, I'm only making sure there is at least one solid space on Warrelics for all post ww2 M1 info to be housed. I highly suggest that you read the whole thread linked above as there is some great information in there!
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Thank your very much for this Informations.
Here i can show a M 31? B Stamp.
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