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05-08-2021 12:46 PM
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Dos, I can see the differences you are pointing out but I am not smart enough to know the differences if I walked by an one of these at a local show. Thanks for sharing.
John
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Just to contribute, it is not an attack or negative criticism.
Has started badly, compare pears with apples.
there are many variations of brands in rzm52 and to make a correct comparison, you have to compare the same brand, such as this.
From here we can begin to draw conclusions with the little , bad and blured pictures we have of the owner of skull, opinion seeker.
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I have read from multiple different sources that the front half of the die stamp that was used on these RZM 52 types was never changed. Only the back part of the die stamp was renewed / changed for different positions and or markings. I wonder if this is correct? In my opinion this was the case.
The pictures are indeed sadly not sharp enough to make good conclusion. I will try to keep this thread up to date if there are better pictures available and share the link to the WAF post here below:
Wehrmacht-Awards.com Militaria Forums
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The furrowed brow ridge on the front, and blob of a creek recess on the reverse seem like good tells. Scary fake, thanks for pointing it out.
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For the moment I will have to agree with "another ant" based on the photo's provided I cannot say whether or not it's fake. I own 5 of the 52 marked Deschler's and yet I would be fooled by the skull in the OP. Perhaps I don't possess the analytical eye to discern these minute differences. I learned about these skulls by repetitively viewing hundreds of images on this forum then eventually holding and examining them in hand. I still struggle when I come across an anomaly that makes me doubt a piece. I'd like to hear some more opinions from members like Carlsson, Winkelman, Adrian, Arran, Chris K and others. Hopefully this thread will continue. If this turns out to be a fake then some of us are doomed to make costly mistakes
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another ant
Just to contribute, it is not an attack or negative criticism.
Has started badly, compare pears with apples.
This is what forums are for, To discuss our interests and contribute to this forum for many others to come. No offense taken, but i don't really agree on the last part.
All of the Deschler RZM 52 types i have seen so far have the same front and therefore are comparable to the OP skull.
Thank you for sharing your 52 marked skulls Aldo. I hope we get some clarification some day!
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I hope so too Marten because that skull makes me nervous about the possibilities of new generation fakes. I recall recently that this one below was debunked but the attachment points gave it away but it's realistic nonetheless.
Early Deschler & Sohne Totenkopf RZM 52
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