Rare Transitional Deschler TK

[carlsson1982]

The skull is a obvious cupal by it's appareance and the typical "Cupal" patina. The so called "cast mess" a repair that has been done and Aldo was informed by that too.
Telling this is a zink skull is out of the blue.

[Aldo]

Thank you Sid. I recall that when I first obtained the skull I thought it looked like zinc because of it's dull appearance and lack of experience on my part. Now that I have handled and closely examined many examples over the last few years, I have no doubt that it is cupal. The weight is consistent with all my other cupal Deschler skulls as well.

[another ant]

The skull is a obvious cupal by it's appareance and the typical "Cupal" patina. The so called "cast mess" a repair that has been done and Aldo was informed by that too.
Telling this is a zink skull is out of the blue.

1- to me it does not seem as obvious as you say.



and here a similar patina and even so the cupal is obvious at least in the back.



but from what Aldo indicates in the last post I suppose that in hand it is better appreciated that it is made of thick cupal.

2- and here you have the evidences that takes the nails out of the coffin and turns it into an authentic piece.

same manufacturing errors reproduced in

Aluminum Deschlers






m1/24 Cupal



I could find more but I think it's all said.
I hope this helps.

[sutka]

very good conversation
thank you guys

[Aldo]

1- to me it does not seem as obvious as you say.



and here a similar patina and even so the cupal is obvious at least in the back.



but from what Aldo indicates in the last post I suppose that in hand it is better appreciated that it is made of thick cupal.

2- and here you have the evidences that takes the nails out of the coffin and turns it into an authentic piece.

same manufacturing errors reproduced in

Aluminum Deschlers






m1/24 Cupal



I could find more but I think it's all said.
I hope this helps.

Thank you for the thoughtful and precise analysis. The images you provided are extremely helpful. I would also like to thank all those that participated and helped resolve the issue.

[Buster1]

This topic is still being discussed on the other forum. Towards the end of the thread someone posted some pics that I find quite interesting..

[another ant]

1- quite interesting is also this that they have contributed, similar manufacturing error in zinc Overhoff skull, I suppose that here the mold was already about to be changed by the one of the 2nd generation of zinc overhoff skulls, unacceptable quality.



2- This is another example of a mold for different materials this time from aluminum to zinc, I suppose that the wear on mold was so accelerated that there were not many copies and those that came out are full of failures.
I would like to have found another less worn example of aluminum for comparison but it is what it is, if someone finds one with a more mint front to show it it would be a good help.





and some found on the ground for skeptics.





I hope this helps.

[Buster1]

Thanks for the heads up on the stamping flaw with the overhoff another ant. I was recently discussing this skull with Aldo, it almost looked like it was scuffed up, wasnt sure what that was

[another ant]

yet another example of the same manufacturing error on an aluminum s.p.40.

[another ant]

Aldo, another one of this type appeared in the circus waf forum for the peace of your conscience or put the final nail in the coffin.