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SA Sturmfahne Sturm/Standarte 5/234 and 21/235

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    Also when did the metal rings begin to be stamped with RZM on the SA flags? And when did the SA flags start using fringes, because supposedly the earlier flags didn't use fringes. And when did they start using the silver/gold piping on the unit ID?

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    Too much questions at once. If having time I will see for exact dates.
    The RZM-marking appeared about 1935, I think. Frings about 1933/1934.
    Must look in my correspondence.

    I gave an answer to where 234 was located. This information comes from
    official sources and address-lists from the Oberste SA-Führung. I
    do not quote from websites or whatever, but from the "original thing"!
    I guess the OSAF knew where its units were located. I also guess that
    most of you guys have never seen such official address-list.
    The Standarte had its headquarters where I told in an earlier post. Maybe
    some of the involved Sturm were located as where you mention!

    "Rotenburg" was the name granted to the DE-Standarte at
    the annual Party-Day from 1933.

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    Quote by fbeaty View Post
    After going back to this... in the above post it says...in German " At the Reichsparteitag 1933, Adolf Hitler's flag was named "Rotenburg" in ref. to 234? What exactly does that mean? What Hitler flag received the name Rotenburg? Or is it meaning that the 234 flags received the blood flags honor?
    No; it doesn't say that. That sentence translates as:

    "At the Reichsparteitag 1933, the Standarte received its standard with the name 'Rotenburg' from Adolf Hitler."

    In the SA and SS, the term Feldzeichen referred to the "Deutschland erwache" standards.

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    Thanks HPL2008.
    Maybe this might be a little help, related to "Feldzeichen" and SA-Standarte:

    SA Sturmfahne Sturm/Standarte 5/234 and 21/235

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    For the benefit of the non-English speaking members, the OSAF order posted by Wim says:

    "1. Standards:
    The standards of the SA-
    Standarten are not uniform insofar as some of them have the name of the Standarte on the obverse and others the letters "NSDAP".
    From now on, all standards shall have the name of the
    Standarte on the obverse, and the letters "NSDAP" on the reverse. The Standarten themselves are to have the necessary adaptions made immediately.
    The box with the inscriptions is to be turned around after removing the two attachment screws. Two new wholes are to be drilled.
    "

    To clarify the term Feldzeichen: It literally means "field sign" and refers to a standard, flag, or banner carried by a military formation, such as the standards of ancient Rome, on which the SA/SS "DE" standards were modelled. In this context, it refers to the "DE" standards specifically, which is why I have translated it as "standard".

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    Guys, thanks for the update... I am a person that loves the details, that is why I asked... because there is so much to learn...

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