1939 Eisernes Kreuz 2.Klasse

**Wilko** · 03-18-2024, 10:36 AM

I've been looking at this one for a few days and even though I have Dietrich Maerz & Mario Alt's book on the EK2 I seem to be drawing a blank.
I just can't nail this one down.

To my eyes I'm thinking this could be a Frank & Reif übergroße but I could very well be totally wrong. I think the ring mark is very hard to read and of no help.

Any help really would be gratefully received as I am thinking of getting this one from a friend.

If I have got this one right it will be the first 1939er I've ever identified correctly but I'm not going to hold my breath LOL.

**Espenlaub Militaria** · 03-18-2024 10:36 AM

We also buy and trade your items and full collections!

**manclino** · 03-18-2024, 10:55 AM

I'm sorry Wilko, but I have to worry you because this is the so-called fake "with rounded angles".
Robert

**Adrian** · 03-18-2024, 11:04 AM

I agree with Robert, the reason you can't identify it to a maker is because it's a fake. The date and the frame give it away.

**Wilko** · 03-18-2024, 11:10 AM

Thank you so much for this gentlemen. I owe you both my gratitude. Imperials are my speciality and that's why I need a little help even with the books I have.

You just saved me from making a massive mistake.

Ken

**paulscoot** · 03-18-2024, 12:32 PM

I think you did really well Ken, You thought it could be by Frank & Reif but deep down you knew even with the books you couldn't pin it down which led you to ask. Regards Paul

**manclino** · 03-18-2024, 01:15 PM

Crosses produced by Frank & Reif are quite expensive. I don't know who is selling this fake and for how much, but it can be made into a key ring at most, and that's what it's worth in my opinion.
Robert

**thecyclist64** · 03-18-2024, 06:06 PM

"Rounded angles" fake is something new I have learned today. very useful Robert, thanks

**manclino** · 03-18-2024, 07:03 PM

This is one of many fakes you can find. Surprisingly, there are so many fakes in the UK. Therefore, before purchasing a cross, if someone has even the slightest doubt, it would be a good idea to post photos on the forum with their question. This will save you wastage of money and disappointment. And unfortunately I will be hated even more by dealers.
Robert

**Wilko** · 03-18-2024, 11:17 PM

I thank you all for helping with this. I know it will help others as well. I will always research as much as I can and ask if I feel its not quite right.

Thank you once again
Ken