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Rosenberg
Hello Ralph, it should be the manufacturer 44, Jakob Bengel, Idar-Oberstein. I wouldn't call the manufacturer a "standard keuz". In terms of frequency, the standard cross would be the 100s .................
Standard cross is usually the S&L mm 4
Nick
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rbminis
Who is the maker?
Ralph.
I stayed put until the others responded.
In the case of a standard cross, it is difficult to distinguish without imprinting.
This means that so many makers used the same parts. OK?
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Ah sorry, I misunderstood the question ................
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fraglie
I stayed put until the others responded.
In the case of a standard cross, it is difficult to distinguish without imprinting.
This means that so many makers used the same parts. OK?
Actually, I disagree.
Although I am not really an EK collector, I do know that real ardent cross collectors can tell the maker of an EK by the date, frame, beading, etc.
So, stating that it is a "standard cross" does not really contribute anything to the discussion.
Ralph.
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rbminis
Actually, I disagree.
Although I am not really an EK collector, I do know that real ardent cross collectors can tell the maker of an EK by the date, frame, beading, etc.
So, stating that it is a "standard cross" does not really contribute anything to the discussion.
Ralph.
+1 with Ralph. Although I am far from a specialist, I have both a copy of Maerz & Stimson and Gordon Williamson on my shelf. Given some time to consult and leaf through the pages, I can eventually do what the ardent collectors can often do from memory: identify maker from the various features.
Todd
Former U.S. Army Tanker.
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rbminis
Actually, I disagree.
Although I am not really an EK collector, I do know that real ardent cross collectors can tell the maker of an EK by the date, frame, beading, etc.
So, stating that it is a "standard cross" does not really contribute anything to the discussion.
Deschler, Juncker, Deumer ... are easy, they all have their own unique design. There are however makers that used St&L cores, St&L frames or both. In case of a full St&L parts cross (e.g. '25', '44', '66', '76' ...), it is very hard to attribute to a specific maker when unmarked. Usually they are referred to as a "standard cross" or "standard St&L design".
Member fraglie is correct in his determination of the EK2 in the OP.
Regards,
Nick
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rbminis
Actually, I disagree.
Although I am not really an EK collector, I do know that real ardent cross collectors can tell the maker of an EK by the date, frame, beading, etc.
So, stating that it is a "standard cross" does not really contribute anything to the discussion.
Ralph.
Hi Ralph
I don't understand you. You are claiming to be true without knowing the exact information.
What I mentioned as standard cross means that many makers actually used S&L parts as they were, so you never know without the maker imprint.
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Nick Hessens
There are however makers that used St&L cores, St&L frames or both. In case of a full St&L parts cross (e.g. '25', '44', '66', '76' ...), it is very hard to attribute to a specific maker when unmarked. Usually they are referred to as a "standard cross" or "standard St&L design".
Member fraglie is correct in his determination of the EK2 in the OP.
Regards,
Nick
Thanks Nick
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