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Hi Russ.
Thank you for more photos.
Page 20 - (Training/small arms)
Gewehr 98k
leichte maschinengewehre 34 und leichte maschinengewehre 42
Pistole 38
Handgranate
Eihandgranate
Gasmaske 40
K98 Rifle
Mg34 and 42
P38 pistol
Hand grenade
Egg grenade
Gas mask
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Krankenträger
Krankenträgerlehrgang von 20.5.1943 - 10.6.1943
Stretcher bearer
Stretcher bearer course from 20.5.1943 - 10.6.1943
Normally wounds and deaths are noted on page 34, so either he survived the war or is classed as missing. I am not sure how to search for missing soldiers and I think BlackCat is your man for that, so hopefully he will see this and have a search.
That is an interesting theory about the Halbe hoard. I cannot remember which SS units documents were in the box, but the Frundsberg appears to have been involved in the fighting.
Battle of Halbe - Wikipedia
Kind regards,
Will.
** Edit - Thank you sammler, I was writing this and didn't see your reply.
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I have to correct myself: Will is right, it means 'Eihandgranate', what means the normal Hand grenades because their shape remembers to eggs.
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Seeing where Sammler is from remined me about this -
Erwin Koenig who was born in Chicago, Illinois, USA and served with SS Panzer Grenadier Regiment 21, part of the 10th SS Panzer Division “Frundsberg”
Details from the Volksbund -
Name: Fred König
Date of birth: 30.10.1926
Place of birth: Chicago
Death/missing date: 20.08.1944
Death/missing place: Falaise-Argentan
Service rank: Grenadier
Fred König is buried in the military cemetery in Champigny-St.André .
Endgrablage: Block 7 Reihe 5 Grab 475
Fred Konig | Grabersuche-Online
Good write up of his wehpaß and story -
Fred Koenig: A SS Grenadier from Chicago USA
Kind regards,
Will.
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Thank you Will and Sammler for your replies!
I was nearly there with the weapons training (apart from the 'egg grenade') but I couldn't de-cypher the stretcher bearer course.
Kind regards,
Russ
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Willmore
Seeing where Sammler is from remined me about this -
Erwin Koenig who was born in Chicago, Illinois, USA and served with SS Panzer Grenadier Regiment 21, part of the 10th SS Panzer Division “Frundsberg”
Details from the Volksbund -
Name: Fred König
Date of birth: 30.10.1926
Place of birth: Chicago
Death/missing date: 20.08.1944
Death/missing place: Falaise-Argentan
Service rank: Grenadier
Fred König is buried in the military cemetery in Champigny-St.André .
Endgrablage: Block 7 Reihe 5 Grab 475
Fred Konig | Grabersuche-Online
Good write up of his wehpaß and story -
Fred Koenig: A SS Grenadier from Chicago USA
Kind regards,
Will.
Thank you very much, very interesting! I'm not originally from Chicago, but from Frankfurt/M in Germany. You can certainly tell from my English, which is not quite so sure. But I have a family connection to Chicago because one of my grandfathers is from here. His name was Edward Raymond. He had been an occupation soldier in Germany and was of German-Italian descent. His grandfather's surname has yet been 'Raimund'.
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Your English is really good Sammler and that is an interesting story about your family too.
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russg
Thank you Will and Sammler for your replies!
I was nearly there with the weapons training (apart from the 'egg grenade') but I couldn't de-cypher the stretcher bearer course.
Kind regards,
Russ
I do not know if it is common in English to differ between Grenade and Grenade. In the German language we differ between 'Stiehlhandgranate' and 'Ei(er)handgranate'. So far I've only heard 'Hand Grenade' in English. But maybe it's cause I don't usually deal with explosive objects that often.
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I am not sure myself to be honest Sammler, but I think you are right. All grenades are called grenades, but have different purposes, like fragmentation and smoke for example.
British grenades -
One moment, please....
Stielhandgranate 24 -
The German WW2 M24 Stielhandgranate index page
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Willmore
Thanks for the explanation Will! Then I wasn't that wrong. Thank you also for the links! 'Stiehlhandgranate' is the classic version known from the Wehrmacht and which, to my knowledge, also existed in WWI. 'Eihandgranaten' were rather unusual for the German Army in WWII, unlike the US Army.
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NSDAP Sammler
It could also be read as "Volm".
I've just been through all the MIA's for Pz Gren Rgt 22 as well as Sanitäts Abteilung 10 and Frundsberg MIA's in general across the Division and there is no one named Volm among them. I didn't check VDK database against Volm.
Just checked VDK database, there are 500 casualties with the surname Volm. But none with the same date of birth.
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