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SS dagger 121/34 real ore fake?

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    This dagger really is what im looking for if its legit. The crossgrain and eagle seem real and the markers have been seen before (also in reverse).

    Help would be really appreciated since im still a rookie thats learning.

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    Hello Martijn.

    It is important to download pictures from a website and post them to the thread, that way if the link expires the thread can still be used in the future.

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    Hello, The Collector's Guild is one of the better dealers IMO, your decision to ask before purchase is an admirable start, in the future it would be better for all to post photos directly to the thread, as for authenticity, I will leave that for the blade fella's, G

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    Hello Martijn,

    For me a good one - very similar as this one judged OK here :

    Rzm 121/34 ss

    Regards.

    ARNAUD

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    Wonder what the number is on the lower cross guard seen above the RZM manufacturer etch.

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    I for one would like to see beneath the lower crossguard and the top of the scabbard.

    Verdigris or what its supposed to be,.. looks like a jelly like substance and odd to see it on steel when its known to appear on copper , bronze and brass.

    Fake verdigris is made of green crayon.

    @ Rich ...hard to say what is going on with that crossguard but the number does look like a six

    I know Nickel has a low content of copper within...but to see what looks wet in close up images and alot of it is on the steel.
    Typical dull gray blade photos as well.
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    I Agree with Larry - this one needs more pictures.

    Real verdigris that I have seen is where nickel silver and leather touch and sometimes a thin line of it where a crossguard fits on a wood grip. I've also seen it on a copper wire used to hold a leather covered scabbard on a display board.

    After fiddling with the contrast of the crossguard photo the number may be 160671 ... but it is very weak.

    Dave

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    I'm not sure I get the impression that this is intending to be fake verdigris.
    I'm not making any comment on whether the dagger is real or not but I just don't feel that green thing is necessarily meant to be fake Verdigri I think it might be green grease I've seen plenty of grease that's green coloured

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    Number on cross guard looks like 16_071. I as well would like to see more photos.

    Tim

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