Matsuyama Factory Banners - Need Help Translating!

[ghp95134]

Well done, Kindergarten style.

So instead of Gold Stars


Japanese kindergartners get the Red/White Cherry Blossom:
たいへにょくできました
Taihen Yokudekimashita
Extremely Well-done!

Thanks, Nick!
-- Guy

[Kiipu]

Could these logos actually belong to two different companies? Attached is an advertisement from 1938 showing the logo as it appears in the picture in post 1 (OP). The buildings in the different advertisements do not seem to be the same.

Edit 1: The attached ad is listed under 松屋 in the advertisers index. This would seem to indicate two possible companies, 松屋 and 松山軍刀製作所, used similar but slightly different logos.

Edit 2: The company name is Matsuya 松屋 according to Nick.

[Nick Komiya]

No, Matsuya is like the Macy's of Japan, a department store still in the Ginza. The department store logo was a crane, so different motif.

[Kiipu]

No, Matsuya is like the Macy's of Japan, a department store still in the Ginza. The department store logo was a crane, so different motif.

Is that the same logo that appears in post 1 above, dated 2019-11-06?


Matsuyama Military Sword Workshop 松山軍刀製作所 logo from post 19 shown for comparison.
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[Nick Komiya]

Yes, good eyes, that photo is a send-off for a Matsuya department store clerk, no Gunto maker. The dept. store used that logo between 1907 and 1978. Obviously the author mixed logos up. The Gunto shop logo is post 11.

[Kiipu]

Thank you for the help Nick. I never would have figured it out that the Matsuya logo was that of a crane! I updated the thread over at the Nihonto Message Board (NMB) with your latest research results.
Matsuyama Factory banners - Translation Assistance - Nihonto Message Board

[ghp95134]

The Matsuyama logo is "two pine needles [for matsu] encircled points downward with the kanji 山 in chief."

Not an official blazon, but close enough, perhaps.
-- Guy

Hmmmm .... I seem to have said that in post #16.

[ghp95134]

... I never would have figured it out that the Matsuya logo was that of a crane! ..

That's because the logo is a pair of long-leaf pine needles, points downward .... just like the Matsuyama logo. Matsu means pine in Japanese.



-- Guy

[Bruce Pennington]

Thanks guys! I will pass this info on to Mr. Fuller.

[Bruce Pennington]

Interesting tanto posted on Wehrmacht-awards. It has the 松 engraved on the habaki. Possibly made by the Matsuyama Co.?

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