Allgmeines Sturmzeichen Review

[Roderick]

Hi to everybody,

I bought this Sturmabzeichen recently from another collector in Germany and he was quite sure that this would be an original. But I can return it within 14 days if it should prove to be a fake. I compared it with many pictures I found in this forum and on the internet but still can´t tell if it´s authentic or fake. What I´m courious abut is that the hook shows in the wrong direction, but maybe it was just incorrectly rapaired once ? The badge itself is non-magnetic, but the needle is magnetic. Also the strange "circle" in the middle of the backside (milling track ?) is something I didn´t spot on other badges. I hope the picture quality is sufficient, I combined my IPhone with a common magnyfinig glas as I dont have a macro lens yet...

[rbminis]

I believe these are fairly recently attributed to Bierdermann & Co.
I can't vouch for the catch, but there is more than one variant.
Wait for other opinions, not really my field of research.
Ralph.

[Roderick]

Dear Ralp, thanks for your thoughts and ideas, this already helped a lot. I compared my ASA to other Biedermann ASA pictures I could find in the web and it really looks 100% identical. Also the circle on the backside and the hook in the wrong direction seems to be ok for this version. I found a nearly similar peace here:
ALLGEMEINES STURMABZEICHEN - BIEDERMANN VARIANTE - NACHSCHUBLAGER MILITARIA

So, I assume this is a good sign and it seems to be an original ?

[Adrian]

It's a good match to the one in the link and others. Nice find.

[GlennAgain]

The reverse reminded me of this piece in my Fake Box...I figured it's either a Fake or a Flawed Reject...

[Roderick]

Dear Glenn, thanks for the pictures of your probable fake ASA. On the frontside it really looks close but there are some very small differences I could recognize, especially the claws and the form and size of the acorns look different. Also the milled circle on the backside look very different. So I still hope I bought an original, but quite not 100% sure yet.

[raz]

In Franks book this badge ( unknown maker #10 ) has the matching reverse with the swirls and catch . The obverse has a couple defects ( above eye and grenade ) but matches most traits . Hope pic's help .

[Roderick]

Thanks a lot Raz, so I think this is the final proof that I bought an original. I compared the picture from the book and it´s definitively this version. Thanks a lot to everybody !!!