WW2 1940 German 84/98 III Bayonet bym Maschinenhaus Ferlach MISMATCHED PLUM CAPTURE REFURB?

[BlackCat1982]

The Bakelite bayonet grips display the maker abbreviation KP, which refers to Karl Potthof, Presswerke, Solingen-Ohlings. The firm also used code N9.

[Sleepwalker]

Hello,

this may be an early DDR overhaul. Aluminum rivets and ribbed fleshguards were not used in early refreshes.

Overhauls by the Wehrmacht were of significantly better quality. In addition, attention was always paid to matching numbers.

Regards

[Anderson]

Interesting idea SW, would the crossguard marks also fit with early DDR? Replaced grip plates with wood types were also a feature usually seen.

[AndyB]

The blueing on scabbard has maps is not extra good made, so its questionable its a DDR refurbishment here. Secondly the pommel is blued over cleaned pitted surface by yugo or DDR reworks would be the surface firstly flashed down and later added a new blueing, similar condition would be hard to accepted.

[Sleepwalker]

Hello,

no such numbers are not common with DDR S84/98.
However, it is still not known exactly where the GDR got their K98k and S94/98 from. These may have been Soviet or/or Czechoslovak and other stocks.
The S84/98 were probably not always stored well after 1945. I have seen revised rust spots on many DDR S84/98. There was not only one revision wave in the GDR. This happened continuously and several times.


Here is an early GDR overhaul from stocks of the DVP or working class combat groups.

The finish is similar. Only the GDR used other screws on the mouth plate as a replacement.

[Sleepwalker]

But, even if the DDR S84/98 are not really popular with many collectors, early DDR revisions are objectively much rarer than good SD84/98 with matching numbers from WW2. For me also an interesting collector's area.

[AndyB]

Thanks for sharing the nice pictures SW, anyway a piece presented here in first thread has little different quality of pommel, note the heavy rust on crossguard, i doubt this would be real for NVA, maybe for Betriebs Miliz, or similar guarding unit, anyway the flecking blueing on scabbard looks like cold blue. Your piece is much more better, the pommel area of one side is clearly rough finish from late war production. The other side of pommel were flashed down before blueing, which remains only minimum area of rust pits.
CSR delivered in period post 1955 some quantity of S84/98 to DDR, this is confirmed.
Note the deep 0.8-1mm rough rusted area on crossguard, cleaned chemically and overblued, by refurbishment would be removed that area and flashed down, it would not remain similar structure with rough surface on this place.