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Luftwaffe 2nd model no maker Voos etch

Article about: Here is the unmarked 2nd model etched. The etch appears to be Voos to me. Only issue I see is portepee has been added and not original. Please let me know what you think or see. Thanks Tim

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    Like the Voss double etch, I would not want an unmarked no maker name Damascus dagger. Provenance is difficult if not impossible to provide. Reason being smithies who made these had no source of income post war so they produced them post war to sell as souvenir items. Anyone versed on the Damascus process can make these, then mate them to original fittings. To give you an idea how prolific it is, here is a list of companies producing these in Pakistan today:

    RAB CUTLERY WORLD
    Near Government Cutlery Center,G.T.Road, Wazirabad.

    RaB Cutlery World was established in 2009. We are specialist manufacturing knives, swords and axes with Damascus steel. Our research development section is developing new designs based on continuous innovation. develop each piece of knife great attention ...
    Damascus Hunting Knives,Folding Knives,Bowie,Daggers,Blank Blades
    JS Industries
    nizamabad, Wazirabad, Other, Pakistan,

    We are large manufacturers and exporters in Wazirabad-Pakistan, producing of medium-to-high grade Knives, daggers swords gift also Cutlery Set, The technical force our company is rich,The production technology advanced with latest Machine work ...
    cutlery, stainless steel knives, swords, daggers, hunting knives, damascus steel ,
    Ali custom knives
    nzd, wazirabad, punjab, Pakistan,52000

    Ali knives a Pakistani cutlery manufacturer.Here, highest quality materials and years of experience in knife making
    knives, hunting knives, custom knives, custom damascus swords, custom damascus daggers, pocket knife, custom damascus knifes, folding knives, survival knife, utility knife, switchblade knife, buck knifes, automatic knife, fishing knife, bowie knife, ger
    Damascus Steel Ind.
    Pak Town, Allahabad, Gujranwala, Punjab, Pakistan,52000

    Respected Sir/Madam,We are feeling pleasure to introduce our renowned industry as the commercial manufacturer of high quality Damascus steel. We in practices this special type steel alloy since 18th century.We inherited manufacturing skill from ...
    damascus knives, damascus blades, damascus hunting knife, damscus swords, damascus daggers and damscus axe.
    YORK VIVANT COMPANY
    G.T Road

    "YORK VIVANT COMPANY" engaged in manufacturing of variety Damascus & Stainless Steel #Knives, #Swords #Axes, # Dagger, #Blank Blades, Razors and All kinds Cutlery products Pakistan. High quality steel is used to manufacture these products. By ...
    Damascus Steel Knives,Daggers,Swords,Axes,Steel Bars
    Desert Star International
    House B-100/2, Shahwali colony, wah cantt, Rawalpindi, Punjab, Pakistan,44000

    Desert Star Cutler is Manufacturer and Exporter of all kind Pocket Knives, Hunting French Lady Fish Knives Gift Sets, Sword, Cutlery Items, we are specialized in Damascus steal & Daggers. ...
    hunting knives, damascus daggers, kitchen knives, swords, cutlery items, kitchen utensils and all kind of tableware
    Real Damascus & Cutlery Industry
    Other, Pakistan,

    CompanyProfile: Real Damascus & Cutlery Industry was Established in 1988 andSince then is engaged Exporting all kinds of folding Knives,Swords, daggers and damascus knives to various countries Europeparicularly UK USA. Presently we have ...
    : One of Pakistan\'s pioneer and leading manufacturers and Exportersof all types of Damascus knives, Hunting knives, Pocket Knives,Kitchen Knives, Daggers, Swords, Helmets, Axes, Table Cutlery,Forks, Spoons, KitchenWare etc. S E R V I C ES Real Damascus & Cutlery Industry employees are responsible toensure complete satisfaction of consumers in each item produced byour Factory. Company all management responsibilities and quality objective aredefined. We are able to manufacture any type of new items even on therequired designs and specifications of customers. All our products are being manufactured by highly skilled manpower,which compete with the international products. Products packing is export quality stander. Supply of products ability is very quick with gurantee. Q U A L I T Y We must never compromise on quality. Our aim is to ensure that our products must be defect free and tobe delivered within time. Child Labour is not employed in our factory. Our quality depends on each of our employees, who must, therefore,remain in complete harmony with our company\'s beliefs, values,goals, and accomplishments.
    Raziq Ind.
    Main south railway gate behind girls degree college, Nizamabad Wazirabad, Wazirabad

    Company first priority is provide best quality to valued customers .And our customers are fully satisfied with our workmanship .
    Damascus Knives, Folding knives, Hunting knives, Daggers
    Zubair Sports
    P. 0. Box No 62 Waziranabad

    Dear Sir, We would like to introduce ourselves as manufacturer and exporter of all kind Custom made knives, Damascus Hunting Pocket Knives,Ceramic knifes,Fishing knife, Samurai Swords,Movie Swords Table Cutlery Products from Pakistan. ...
    swords,knife,daggers,huntting knife,kitchen knife,axe,movies swords,damascus knife,folding knife,cutlery,tableware,throwing knife,damascus blade,keychain knife,knives
    Raj Cutlery
    Mohallha Saithlon, Nazimabad, Wazirabad, Pakistan,

    Raj Cutlery Aims not only to introduce high quality cutlery,swords, hunting knives, pocket leather products &surgical the world market, but also continue a renovatingprocess with view bring home cutlery, swords, huntingknives, & surgical ...
    damascus daggers, knives, leather, cutlery, swords, hunting knives, pocket knives, surgical, kitchen knives,
    sindhu trading company
    CSTISC Main G.T. Road Wazirabad, Wazirabad, Pakistan,52250

    SINDHU TRADING Co, is an operated business that has been dedicated to providing healthcare professionals with the products they need perform their art since a long. Our high quality, precision crafted instruments have essential product line our worthy ...
    daggers, knives, hunting knife, pocket knife. damascus steel(daggers, knives, hunting knife, pocket knife. surgical instrument, chain mail.
    S-J Overseas Corporation
    Arif Shaheed Road Nizamabad, Wazirabad, Punjab, Pakistan,52000

    Company Information: S-J Overseas Corporation is one of the leadingManufacturers and Exporters finest quality Hunting Knives,Swords, Table Cutlery, Daggers, Cane Swords & Damascus SteelKnivesPakistan. Our Mission: To become preferred provider ...
    damascus steel knives, daggers

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    Thanks a lot Rich that was great info and that is a lot of Damascus makers. Sure does surprise me how many of the big name dealers sell the unmarked daggers. I definitely think I will steer clear of them in the future. I only have one unmarked, this luft but it was expensive enough.

    Tim

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    Tim, do a key word search 'Pakastani produced SS Honor Daggers' or 'Pakastani produced German Army Daggers'. Anyone who has a fist full of dollars can get what ever they want made so buying these things from dealers with no names is a crap shoot with odds against you getting an original era made Damascus dagger.

    Don't be surprised because money corrupts so many people and a the hungry 'I want' people loose sight of what they should be looking for while some dealers keep the focus on getting your dollars any way they can. When this stuff became big ticket dollar items it became a gold rush for fraudsters.

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    Yes greed is definitely a societal issue. Thankfully people write books and we have these forums to assist with my education.

    Tim

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    I would be suspicious of any unmarked Damascus blade. It was possible to buy an "imitation Damascus" blade during the TR era, and in fact some collectors may not be aware their blade is not genuine Damascus. But it was cheaper for buyers to go for the imitation option and most people wouldn't know the difference. Genuine Damascus blades probably only were fitted to special orders, presentation daggers or sword. There was actually only six sword smiths in Solingen in 1938 who were qualified to produce a Damascus blade. So they were a very expensive option. As it was the ultimate advertisement for the company, you can be sure it would be maker marked.

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