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"Of the many groups of Dachau insignia I have had, only one group had a helfrin badge. These were evidently made there..."
Just to clarify a small point, all my researches into the Uebungslager complex at Dachau would indicate that badges were not made there. After approval, badges were manufactured via the RZM at licensed insignia suppliers and then delivered to Dachau for distribution, hence the number found there at the end of the war.
Items of clothing were certainly manufactured at the Dachau clothing works as many period images show but there does not appear to be any facility for the production of insignia.
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"Of the many groups of Dachau insignia I have had, only one group had a helfrin badge. These were evidently made there..."
Just to clarify a small point, all my researches into the Uebungslager complex at Dachau would indicate that badges were not made there. After approval, badges were manufactured via the RZM at licensed insignia suppliers and then delivered to Dachau for distribution, hence the number found there at the end of the war.
Items of clothing were certainly manufactured at the Dachau clothing works as many period images show but there does not appear to be any facility for the production of insignia.
I must strongly disagree with my colleague. My statement was based on first hand information I received from several veterans who were stationed at Dachau. Due the paranoid atmosphere surrounding SS insignia, some of the information I obtained independently from these men who were there, I prefer to keep part of what was told me to myself. However, the blanket statement of insignia not being produced at Dachau is incorrect.
BOB
LIFE'S LOSERS NEVER LEARN FROM THE ERROR OF THEIR WAYS.
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Hallo everyone of us.
I will add some information about SS-Helferinnen : there was only SS Kriegshelferinnen, and SS-Nachrichtenhelferinnen consider as full SS, the last one belong from the Weiblichen Nachrichtenkorps der SS (WNK-SS)
_the ss-Aufseherinen Koncentration-Lager = concentration warder/martinet were not allowed to wear SS distinctive insignia (but as some did SS Hauptamt send a note to denounce this fact and prohibit this practice...Have to find it in my documents).
So when man speaks about SS-Helferinnen the female camps guard SS-Aufseherinen should not be included.
The ss-Krieghelferinnen help in cleaning, as secretaries and other simply duties or functions which did not required to succeed the Nachricht exam of the SS-Helferinnenschule Oberehnheim, most of them work in Lebensborn houses. Some Krieghelferinnen were even girl who failed the exam.
During the first 8 week shool time in Oberehnheim Elsaß =Alsace the girls were named SS-Maiden (offizielle Benennung von SS-Helferinnen während der Ausbildung), Then if they passed exam they could go for higher study from 6 to 24 weeks more in Draht, Funk, Stabs- und Verwaltungsdienst, Hauswirtschaft, Unterführerinnenschule in one of the 5 teaching group "fünf Ausbildungsgruppen".
sources :
SS-Helferinnenschule Oberehnheim (Bestand)
BArch, NS 32-II
Kontext:
Bundesarchiv (Archivtektonik) >> Norddeutscher Bund und Deutsches Reich (1867/1871-1945) >> Inneres, Gesundheit, Polizei und SS, Volkstum
Bestandslaufzeit:
(1933-1937), 1942-1945
Besprechungen mit dem Reichsführer-SS.- Grundsatzfragen über Organisation und Uniformierung
Archivaliensignatur:
BArch, NS 32-II/3
Kontext:
SS-Helferinnenschule Oberehnheim >> NS 32 II SS-Helferinnenschule "Oberehnheim" >> Errichtung, Organisation und Entwicklung
Laufzeit:
1942-1943
Zusammenarbeit der bei der SS eingesetzten Frauen mit der Reichsfrauenführung in Fragen der Betreuung der in den besetzten Gebieten eingesetzten deutschen Frauen
Archivaliensignatur:
BArch, NS 19/2479
Kontext:
Persönlicher Stab Reichsführer SS >> NS 19 Persönlicher Stab Reichsführer-SS >> C Aufgabenverwaltung >> C.17 Arbeit, Soziales >> C.17.2 Soziales, insbes. Fürsorge- und Versorgungsangelegenheiten der SS
Laufzeit:
Mai 1942 - Aug. 1942
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Here is about the breast SS oval insignia, offer to the "Mädel" who passed the exam of the SS-Nachrichtenschule Oberehnheim, later renamed "Reichsschule-SS", as proof of the succeed. Helferinnen were given 2 or 3 insignias for the SS-helferin 3 pockets service tunic, for the long coat, and as spare, (for the parade tunic for rich women who can affor a taylor made suit...some did). Woman can buy other SS oval to a "stickereien" in Strasburg or anywhere else. My veteran told me that her own insignia where not sewing but attached to the suit with 4 "clips" ( I do not know the name in english") in oder to avoid the twisted thread of metal of her insignia and the metal cord around to be destroyed by the dry cleaner when she got to clean it.
So these ovals are unusual due to the small amount of SS-Nachrichthelferinnen, the BUNDESARCHIV give a total amount of more or less 3000 SS-Helferinnen.
So to find a real one...is difficult:
_you have to get a magnifying glass to see corrosion on the twisted metal thread and on the twisted cord aound. this is impossible after 70years not to have minor corrosion between the twist
_the fabric should be mostly of wool or mixed with Zellwolle= Acetat or cupramonnium (rayonne or fibrane) for german made, or Viscose for Alsacian Made, (german use vikose too)
the carboard under the aluminium thread should be water repellent, brown or black, but at the end of the war ...they use what they got, but anyway it should be an old made material, mat old aspect.
_normally must of rigid insignias like this oval got 1 or 2 layers of glued* black coton cloth, and were "woven" with thin white strong mat coton (not mercerized=rendered shining) or white or yellow linen or the better hemp which become stonger with water...but you have to see the back !!!
*glues were made from dextrin or collagen, not the actual glue for cloth.
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Add: DMC N°150 for Mechanishe Stikereien =for the shuttle (under) thread. Sorry to forget this important information.
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I would like to ask if there´s anyone here who knows the color of the SS helferinnen uniform (I don´t mean either the Aufseherinnen or the Kriegshelferinnen, but really only the uniform of the SS Reichsschule graduates in Oberehnheim.) Feldgrau or grey ? Does even exist any preserved SS helferin uniform which is really 100% original ?
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