Sturmbann 6 Sturm 2 white border cufftitle original?
Hi there,
I am hoping to get opinions of the originality on this early white bordered allg. cufftitle
I purchased from the legendary Charlie Farley, but I just wanted to be 100% sure that everything is good. It's from the D Delich collection I'm told
It's unusual material, the embroidery is on file ribbon, the last photo is of a tunic I found with the same/similar cuff
Opinions are open and thank you
Cheers
I can see it was already discussed on the other forum WAF?
Material indeed looks very unusual. It's more like an Order Ribbon. Never seen on a Cuff Title.
The seller/collector Charlie Farley is apparently also on this forum, perhaps he can clarify.
The WAF discussion is here:
Wehrmacht-Awards.com Militaria Forums
Just noticed a previous post by the seller - hope the seller will enlighten the forum why the cuff title sold to the OP is original : Numbering on SS cuff titles
The answer to this question is quite simple....
As many of you are aware I have collected Allg SS cuff bands for 40 years.
Over that period of time the person I spoke with, traded with, swapped and shared information with was David Delich.
Many of my cuffs came from Dave and Dave also swapped and trade many with me.
This number 2 band was originally owned by Dave along with numerous other "file ribbon" bands as he called them.
I bought several of these bands from Dave back in the day.
Please see this email from Dave below to me when we were discussing these bands.
Ian,
These bands are SS, but from a private mfg. I have seen
about three different ones on this type of what I call "File cloth ribbon",
and believe that they are a product of Italian vintage. Anyway, do not
believe they had their origin in a German mfg plant. The numerals are
pretty well characteristic of the very early type of numeral, and also
of a white-colored thread. One of the titles I own bears the
name "Italien", and was manufactured for Karl Wolfe, since he was the
head of the SS in Italy. A more often seen version of this title is found
in BeVo-like mfg. That's as much as I can tell you about this at the
moment but the are 100% original and very rare. I have scans of these two types of cuffs I can send to you
via e-mail, but can't do so until early next week.
In my opinion it makes no sense to produce an about 0.55 RM standard 2 cuff title in Italy when they were readily available in Germany, what would be the purpose?
We all made mistakes, also the late Mr Delich - as an example he almost convinced me about 20 years ago that the collar tabs with the Danish flag existed in a RZM version documented by his own factory example with a RZM metal sample tag, but he was wrong at least on that occasion.
I would only like to add that a ribbed cuff was something used on occasion in the occupied countries. See this Dutch one:
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