FB,
thanks for the correction on the cap maker. That makes it all the sweeter if it's a CW cap.
cheers
Tony
FB,
thanks for the correction on the cap maker. That makes it all the sweeter if it's a CW cap.
cheers
Tony
Thank you for an excellent thread and your generosity in sharing your fine material and your subtle knowledge of its character.
Clemens Wagner made nice caps, and your army engineer cap is especially intriguing with its early badges.
I do not mean to intrude with my SS things, but I also long collected German army caps and find them very appealing, to be sure.
Viel Sammlerglueck.
Many of the Wagner caps were distributed by Militaerlaeden and Militaerffekten retailers in their number. Such Wagner caps have the retailers' name, in turn. Many collectors do not understand how this system worked, but an engagement with the contemporary sources (i.e. Uniformenmarkt and the Mitteilungsblaetter d RZM) add clarity to the picture.
Please feel free to "intrude" any time with your caps FB they ARE fabulous.
Unfortunately the pioneer cap has no other marks or information to help clarify if it was sold through a distributor. No marks on sweatband either. Might be a straight forward CW produced and sold cap ?
Always glad to add any information to putting a story next to a cap so I will keep on looking. thanks for the source info ref uniformenmarkt.
Thanks for yours. Uniformenmarkt can be had in its totality as a DVD from Germany. I imagine your cap was made by Clemens Wagner itself, but how it was sold, I imagine it was retailed through the countless military clothing and gee gaw merchants that existed all over Germany, in every garrison and major town and then some.
SS caps have their own story, which I am trying to unfold as best I can.
Thanks for a fine thread.
Schön !
For the finale please find below photos of an artillery officers cap circa 1936.
This one sports the "new" dark green colour band introduced into regulations at end of 1935 plus some nice early insignia (2nd pattern eagle) that came in at the same time.
The bullion wreath is made from "german silver" and has a field grey cloth background indicating that it is from the weimar period.
The shape remains very "teller" and does not show the saddle pattern much favoured later on.
sadly the celluloid is missing and the makers markings are indistinguishable
regards
tony
Hi
That cap is anew one on me. Maybe a civilian cap of some sort ???
sorry can't help any more than that.
cheers
Tony
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