Thanks Wim, is that an extract from one of your books?
"Per Ardua"
Yes, the photos are from the HJ-handbook.
I have more photos boxed with this style of uniform. I have many more of them.
Can you make a good scan from the head with cap, as I would like to see what is worn in front!
If they are from eBay it will not be possible, as the resolution is much too low!
with the earlier photos shoulder-straps are worn, not with these two photos.
I thought they were taken at the WEehrertüchtigungslager at Dettendorf about 1943.
Maybe the difference between WEL and RAD is just the wearing of a closed or open collar.
For the RAD the dess is not mentioned in documentation.
RAD EM's wearing Tuchrock 36, (I think!) Kornwestheim (Stuttgart) Meißenheim Ortenaukreis dated April '39:
"Per Ardua"
Dear all,
... maybe you already know: My father told me because of it's shape the special RAD cap was called by them 'Arsch mit Griff' (literally 'arse with handle').
With best wishes
alter musketier
Last edited by Alter Musketier; 02-08-2018 at 10:13 PM.
In memory of my father who was in K-Einsatz, combat engagement, with the RAD in the Alps in 1945, of my grandfather who was with the IR 87 during campaign in France in 1940 and of my grand-uncle who served in the Gardegrenadierregiment Nr. 3 "Königin Elisabeth" and who was killed in action at Craonne, Chemin des Dames in France in 1917
RAD-Abt. 8/274 "Gustav Kammerer" with the "West" cufftitle:
"Per Ardua"
RAD-Abt. 7/92 Bestensee "Werner von Siemens"
"Per Ardua"
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