Stahlhelm Frontheil buckle

[Seafox]

Good day dear friends,

I would, again, like to ask for your opinions on a potential new buckle to my collection.

The pictures are taken from the seller’s website (of whom I have not any reason to distrust), so better pictures are not available I am afraid.

The reason for my doubt is the attachment of the roundel. I think I have read somewhere on the forum (or elsewhere) that those split pin type of roundel attachments would not be original…
But I can not retrace this information or find any other about it.

I could be totally wrong, without a doubt, and therefore your help would be appreciated.


Kind regards

[Wewelsburg]

Hello Joost. For me, this is not original.

I look at the soldering, attachment and last but not the least , the prongs that have not so nice cutted ends.
And that attachment is known on many fake SA buckles.

But strange attachments happened, here is a SA buckle from my collection

[Ben Evans]

Not one for me, I dont like the box, the solder, the roundel is awful

[Wewelsburg]

And here is a buckle that I really like and still regret that I did not buy.

[Seafox]

I thought I read something about that attachment being seen with fakes.

Too bad. But happy I asked before buying.

I must admit the box and its front made me doubt my own negative conclusion at first, thinking it looked quite original… still lots and lots to learn I guess.

Thanks guys !

[Seafox]

And here is a buckle that I really like

Nice one Kenny ! Also an uncommon attachment (?).

I’ve seen the attachment as on the first buckle (post 2) before, I think on a Württemberg or Preußen Kaiserreich era buckle.

[Wewelsburg]

Yes the roundel and box looks bad as well. There is MANY of these fake Stahlhelm and SA buckles out there from the same series.

The attachment from post 4 is very unusual but I like the Whole thing about it.

Now, it is friday so I can go down in the Basement and listen my favorite dutch DJ.
DJ Partyraiser

[Seafox]

Well it now is my first experience with a reliable and respected seller probably selling a not so reliable item, as I have been warned for as it happens with lots of good sellers.

Enjoy the weekend mate, Ha en trevlig helg !

How do you neighbours rate your favourite music ?

[kirby]

Fake buckle but you will find an original. A lot of dealers don’t know buckles. I watch a YouTube video from Tom Whitman at the 2021 Max Show. A guy showed him a SS officers buckle. It was a easy fake to spot. Tom and the guy were talking like they know buckles. He offered to sell it to Whittmann. Now I see what I think is the same buckle listed for $1795.

[weller]

Hi Joost - agree with the others, a rather rough looking fake. You will find a good one in time. Good that you posted the buckle here before buying. Here is a link to my example. Has a dent on the roundel but the price was good.

Frontheil w/Belt

Kenny - the SA buckle in post #4 is interesting. Don't see many examples with straight sides and no ears.