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Article about: LUFTWAFFE AIR GUNNER BADGE BY JUNKER, just wanted to know if it's real I have never owned one of these and never seen one without the lighting bolts, thank you for any input on this.

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    LUFTWAFFE AIR GUNNER BADGE BY JUNKER, just wanted to know if it's real I have never owned one of these and never seen one without the lighting bolts, thank you for any input on this.
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    Fliegerschützenabzeichen für Bordschützen und Bordmechaniker  

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    This is a reproduction IMO . Wrong reverse hardware , rivets , and maker mark .

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    Thank you, the seller is selling this for $650 dollars.

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    Quote by rhodesia View Post
    never seen one without the lighting bolts, thank you for any input on this.
    Yep, not a good one but to answer your point about the lightning bolts.

    From 1942 there was a separation of the trade groups entitled to the Fliegerschutzenabzeichen which resulted in two different versions of the badge; with lightning bolts (mit Blitzbundeln) was for aircrew radio operators and without lightning bolts (ohne Blitzbundeln) was for aircrew mechanics and air-gunners. The distinction was made on the Verleihungsurkunde (Certificate of issue) using the words mit/ohne Blitzbundeln as part of the award title. When the change occurred there was no exchange facility for those who now required the badge without bolts and the order stated that the holder of the badge was responsible for the removal of the bolts as required. So you will see badges that had the bolts cut off and badges of later manufacture that never had the bolts.

    I hope this helps.

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    Mark
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    Thank you this make a great learning curve for me.

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