It is from Yale UP and also published in Germany.
The book on this is that of Robert Koehl, as well as Wegner. The fractiousness in the SS was a constant theme. This issue is also treated in HJ Mueller Das Heer und Hitler.
I don't put much store in the memoir literature of the protagonists, though Steiner's books are better than the others. Hausser's book, for instance, is very tendentious and a fruit of the era.
There is a new scholarly book coming out on the HIAG which I shall read with interest.
All the best to you.
That would be the biography by Robert Gerwarth, then. I actually liked it better than the other ones I had read on the subject so far.
Kenneth - For some good SS biographies, may I suggest a few personal favorites of mine:
Well worth reading are Peter Longerich's Himmler biography, Ulf Schmidt's biography of Dr. Karl Brandt, Jens Westemeier's work on Joachim Peiper and Anna Maria Sigmund's work on Emil Maurice "Des Führers bester Freund".
thanks. The one on Peiper I do not know. The others are very good. I am no friend of the apologia literature that reigns especially in the English speaking world. Someone in Germany is writing a scholarly biography of Eicke. The Gerwarth book I have not read carefully. In this stuff, I am jaded, I must admit.
Thanks to you all for a collegial experience.
Gentlemen many thanks for taking this interesting topic forward onto the next level . As a collector of German documents i personally feel that one should make some attempt to improve knowledge of the German langauge itself but alas for me only in it's modern format so it a great relief that we have members such as yourselves who can assist in translation of more difficult text as well as that from a previous era.
cheers
Paul
The gates of hell were opened and we accepted the invitation to enter" 26/880 Lance Sgt, Edward Dyke. 26th Bn Northumberland Fusiliers , ( 3rd Tyneside Irish )
1st July 1916
Thought shall be the harder , heart the keener,
Courage the greater as our strength faileth.
Here lies our leader ,in the dust of his greatness.
Who leaves him now , be damned forever.
We who are old now shall not leave this Battle,
But lie at his feet , in the dust with our leader
House Carles at the Battle of Hastings
This thread has gotten a tad bit Off the subject....this is what the PM system here is for-just a thought....William
William
"Much that once was, is lost. For none now live who remember it."
The thread is agood learning tool for all interested in German documentation and Himmler and his signature in particular and has naturally evolved , open for all members to read and comment on , that wouln't be the case if the discussion was continued by pm !!
The gates of hell were opened and we accepted the invitation to enter" 26/880 Lance Sgt, Edward Dyke. 26th Bn Northumberland Fusiliers , ( 3rd Tyneside Irish )
1st July 1916
Thought shall be the harder , heart the keener,
Courage the greater as our strength faileth.
Here lies our leader ,in the dust of his greatness.
Who leaves him now , be damned forever.
We who are old now shall not leave this Battle,
But lie at his feet , in the dust with our leader
House Carles at the Battle of Hastings
I never see you complain when an entire thread can be summed up thus: , Nice items, Well done! etc etc etc - I find such "digressions" as above to be of high merit and perfectly in keeping with the quest to better our knowledge of these things, which is the reason we are here is it not? I at least do not frequent this forum to see parades of smiley-faces and endless boosting up of vanity.
Just a thought.
K§H
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