M1876 bayonet for State Gendamerie Brigade in Alsace-Lorraine?

[Ljus]

Hello!

Two days ago I have seen m1871 like bayonet with yataghan blade.
I have never seen similar bayonets previously.




After some research I found very similar bayonet in the Roy Williams book on p.298
and Klaus Lubbe book on p.101

1) So, does it correct and authentic M1876 bayonet for State Gendamerie Brigade in Alsace-Lorraine?
Or somene else ? Not brass - steel handle is correct?

2)Does it scabbard not from this bayonet ?
Brass topmount and endmount of scabbard very similar ny form scabbard's mounts from British yataghan volounter bayonet...

[AndyB]

The bayonet was probably corectly deciphered, the source should be find in the F.Rudiger books, as Williams only used info from this author.
Firstly the pommel looks like steel and cleaned, the maker is identical, same as the date 1876 and proof, the crossguard number was removed by cleaning, possible remains of 6 there, i assume the scabbard is not from this piece, there is different knob, unvisible or other proofs.
the Williams 239 looks firstly as have a brass handle, and secondly the scabbard is not typical for german bayonet, more real bavarian or other country yataghan scabbard.
I looked to Rudiger IV.part, and all information of Williams book about this type of bayonets are from Rudiger book probably.
The 239 is a early production piece also 75 marked should be brass handle, the blade are from captured french Chassepots or are copies of the french blades and new one S1871 type handle were used.
The here presented iron handle pcs should be rare, with made from Neuhaus, the scabbard should have steel fittings not brass.Designation from Ruediger book:
Haubajonett fuer Fussgendarmen der Kaiserlichen Gendarmerie Brigade in Elsass Lothringen.

[Ljus]

Many thanks!

I found very similar bayonet in IV part of Rudiger W.A. Franz books on p.339

It seems realy exaple of bayonet for Reichsgendameriebrigade in Elsass-Lothringen.
On crossguard it has one unreadable digit...
It also has white cast iron handle
There was only one manufacturer: E.&H. Neuhaus Solingen
Production: 300
And scabbard is really not original not from this bayonet...

[Ljus]

Or may be only brass topmount is not orginal?
But leather and endmount is correct?

[Ljus]

But scabbard should have steel fittings not brass...
Then scabard is not original...

[AndyB]

Yes thats all described there.