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Eisernes Kreuz 1813 Authentic or Not?

Article about: Hello, I'm thinking about purchasing this 1813 iron cross, however, I'd like to hear your opinions as to whether this piece is authentic or not. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Apolo

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    Hello,

    I'm thinking about purchasing this 1813 iron cross, however, I'd like to hear your opinions as to whether this piece is authentic or not. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Apologies is the images aren't the greatest, as these are the ones provided by the seller. Thanks!
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    It looks like the real deal to me.
    It appears to be one of the very early multi-piece frames that has lost
    one of it's pieces. This style of frame which uses several pieces soldered
    together at the corners was one of the first used before they settled on the easier to
    assemble, standard 2 piece front and rear halves.
    Last edited by Chopperman; 11-27-2022 at 04:22 PM.
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    I agree with Greg, looks like an early 'stepped core' example with multi-piece frame, although the core looks very minty. Better photos are in order.

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    Thanks Chopperman for your reply!

    Are these multi-piece frames particularly rare? (And have you seen fakes that would go to the extent of mimicking a multiframe piece?)

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    Thanks Vince for the input!

    I'm still looking for some better photos as the moment, but what aspects (or details of the core) make you believe in its authenticity? I did some reading an apparently the "F" in FW should be slanted (which it is in this case) and that the stem of the oak leaf should be pointed vertically downwards (as opposed to at an angle like the 1870 or 1914 crosses)

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    There are some good fakes of this core floating around, so caution is in order. I haven't seen a copy with the handmade frame yet.

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    Quote by Chopperman View Post
    It looks like the real deal to me.
    It appears to be one of the very really multi-piece frames that has lost
    one of it's pieces. This style of frame which uses several pieces soldered
    together at the corners was one of the first used before they settled on the easier to
    assemble, standard 2 piece front and rear halves.
    That is something new I have learned again today. Thanks greg

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