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Article about: I am trying to find out if this is a German spade or some other ? Cannot find ( yet ) a website / book / link where i can find details about spades.... Therefore i ask the experts here

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    As far as value/pricing goes, I haven't seen any significant difference between WW1 and WW2 versions... Around $125 is about average for such an unmarked set-up, in my opinion...

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    Quote by GlennAgain View Post
    As far as value/pricing goes, I haven't seen any significant difference between WW1 and WW2 versions... Around $125 is about average for such an unmarked set-up, in my opinion...
    Thanks, asking price is $ 75 so for only the price it is a good deal

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    Hello,
    Neither carrier nor shovel are WWII german military. Postwar is my guess for the carrier. For the shovel, more photos are needed.
    Thanks


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    Quote by JPhilip View Post
    Hello,
    Neither carrier nor shovel are WWII german military. Postwar is my guess for the carrier. For the shovel, more photos are needed.
    Thanks
    Thank you. I would like to know more about where i can find information about that to help me to improve my knowledge and help me to decide in future to buy or not buy specific spades

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    Hello, this site could be a good start.

    100 Mann - entrenchingtool

    Jack
    Last edited by Jack59; 11-11-2023 at 04:29 AM. Reason: Typo

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    Quote by Jack59 View Post
    Hello, this site could be a good start.

    100 Mann - entrenchingtool

    Jack
    Wauw, what a big amount. Nice website. Thankyou. I will have a look if i can find "mine"

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    German spade or?

    If i search it looks the most like this one.

    German spade or?

    Which if it is that one makes it : M195x Feldspaten Deutsche Demokratische Republik DDR GDR 950g 33.5oz. BAT Fledermaus 1 38-369-0106 K3 55cm 21.7in. ( if i am correct )

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    Hi Pierre, I was able to find limited info on the post WW2 BAT company, but unfortunately no details about the Feldspatten production except photos of the rivets & the welded models with the BAT logo. With the fall of the Wall many documents & information vanished for ever.
    See link for (a bit) more info: NVA entrenching tools.

    Your shovel is painted & rusted, without stamping seen it's very hard to identify. So many models look alike, it's all about details, details.

    Jack
    Last edited by Jack59; 11-11-2023 at 02:26 PM. Reason: Details, details!

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    Thank you again. Seller says no visible markings are seen ( maybe like you say new painting and markings covered or never had markings ) and indeed i noticed that many look similar

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    It's a NVA set. So far very cheap and unpopular at the collectors market...
    The manufacturer was marked by a gone sticker on the blade.

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