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Article about: Dusted off a few helmets recently and thought i would start a thread showing a few of my Groupings and will add more as time goes on and seeing as my favorite collecting genre is the cold wa

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    Different. A factory defect. Rich A. in Pa.
    Cheers Rich A, could well be? one does have the broad arrow maker stamp (smudged though) Dunno?

    The two new ones on US helmets (Left US Aust issued, mid unissued US not Aust issued) and the Aust made helmet (right) pictured.
    First time I can display three! --short a helmet to display the plain Jane cover!

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    Nice helmets. Rich A. in Pa.
    1969 Shelby GT-500 King of the Road
    Knowledge is power, guard it well.

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    Guys...pls can someone remind me how to date a Brit cover...'minds gone blank...I've got 8415-99-978-9099 & SL34b/0581 and 8415-99-978-9098 & CT34b/1076..both Mk6, UN etc etc

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    Guys...pls can someone remind me how to date a Brit cover...'minds gone blank...I've got 8415-99-978-9099 & SL34b/0581 and 8415-99-978-9098 & CT34b/1076..both Mk6, UN etc etc
    Here's the guide Ade,---


    A/6/CLO – at least 1947 to …
    A/78 - early-mid 1960s to 1979
    CT2, CT3, CT4 - 1979 to 1985
    SL31 – 1983? to 1990
    SL32 - 1985 to 1994
    SL33 - 1989 to 1995 (?)
    SL34 - 1990 to 1994
    ST1 - 1994 to 2003
    ST2 - ???
    CT34 - 1995 to 1997
    CT1A - 1996 to 1997
    CC2 - 1996 to 2007
    OC2 - 2002 to 2003
    CC - 2004 to 2007
    DC1, DC2, ESL - 2003 to at least 2010
    (DC1 - 2003 to at least 2010)
    (DC2 - at least 2006 to at least 2010)
    DCIBESL – at least 2008 to 2009
    DC4 – at least 2008 to 2012

    A/78/G.S./13101/G.S. 1a(1) – NBC trousers, Remploy, packed May 1967 (1966 date deleted)
    A/78/CLO/23153/CT5A – NBC gloves, DAC, 1968
    A/78/G.S./20148/G.S. 1a(1) – NBC trousers, Remploy, packed Aug 1969
    A/78/CLO/32935/DC67 (1) – NBC gloves, packed Nov 1971
    A/78/CLO/33893/DC69 (1) – 68 pattern smock, CW Son Ltd, 1971
    A/78/CLO/38647/DC69 (1) – 68 pattern trousers, CW Son Ltd, 1972
    A/78/CLO/38799/DC67 – respirator case, BHE Ltd, 1972
    A/78/CLO/41990/CB(CT)2A – NBC gloves, Dipco, Dec 1973
    A/78/CLO/44665/CB(CT)2C – NBC gloves, SG Ltd, 1974
    A/78/CLO/41465//M/CB(CT)1C – drawers cellular, Meridian Ltd, Feb 1975
    [above is contract no on garment, batch label also gives “Order A/78/CLO/41851/1/M/CB(CT)1C”]
    A/78/CLO/46903/CB(CT)2C – NBC suit, XAT, 1975
    A/78/CLO/47456/CB(CT)2B - rucksack, M.E.L, 1975
    A/78/CLO/46905/CB(CT)2C – NBC smock, SPE, Jan 1976
    A/78/CLO/50169/CB(CT) – NBC overboots, maker not stated, Jan 1977
    A/78/CLO/50662/CB(CT)1C – jersey man's heavy, TWK, 1977
    A/78/CLO/52159/CB(CT)2A – sleeping bag, CQC, 1977
    A/78/CLO/55654/CB(CT)2B – casualty bag, Remploy, packed May 1978
    A/78/CLO/57092/CB(CT)4A - jersey, heavy, Remploy, 1979
    A/78/CLO/57761/CB(CT)2B – NBC smock, maker not shown, April 1979
    A/78/CLO/57761/CB(CT)2B – NBC smock, maker not shown, April 1979
    A/78/CLO/56726/CB(CT) 2B – NBC gloves, S.G. Ltd, packed May 1979
    A/78/CLO/57761/CB(CT)2B – NBC trousers, maker not shown, Dec 1979
    CT4B/17 – flak jacket, James Smith and Co, 1979
    CT2B/232 – respirator haversack, Remploy, 1979
    CT2B/436 – NBC Mk3 trousers, no maker, fabric date July 1979
    CT3B/566 – lowland spats, Hobsons, 1979
    CT2B/339 – casualty protective bag, Remploy, 1980
    CT2B/431 – NBC smock, Remploy, 1980
    CT2B/496 – S6 respirator haversack, Remploy, 1980
    CT2B/544 – NBC smock, James Smith, 1980, Jan 1981 (fabric date 4/80)
    CT2A/618 – thermal overboots, Remploy, 1980
    CT2B/436 – NBC trousers, no maker, Nov 1980, Mar 1981
    CT2B/496 – S6 respirator haversack, Remploy, 1981
    CT2B/723 – NBC suit, Remploy, fabric 6/81, packed 11/81
    CT4A/803 – jersey man's heavy, Remploy, 1981
    CT4B/844 - dpm arctic smock, 180/96, GQ Defence Equipment Ltd, 1982 or earlier (IWM – issued to war artist Linda Kitson)
    CT2A/904 – NBC overboots, LBRCo, Oct 1981
    CT2B/895 – NBC gloves, S.G. Ltd, packed July 1982
    CT2B/962 – NBC smock, Remploy, June, Aug, Oct. 1982 [fabric Oct 81]
    CT2B/980 – respirator haversack, Remploy, 1982
    CT4A/1000 - jersey, J Pick & Sons Ltd, 1982
    CT4A/1001 – jersey, Remploy, 1982
    CT2A/1150 – sleeping bag, CQC, 1982
    CT2A/1285 - NBC gloves, Dipco, Feb, Dec 1982
    CT2B/1202 – NBC suit, fabric date June 1982, packed March 1983
    CT2A/1477 – 58 patt poncho roll, CWL, 1982
    CT2A/1553 – Arctic rucksack, CQC, 1982
    CT2A/2630 – NBC overboots, LBRCo, June 1983
    CT4A/1023 – Jersey, Remploy, 1983
    CT2B/1202 – NBC trousers, Remploy, Oct 1983
    CT2B/1238 - Individual Protection Kit, Remploy, 1983
    CT2A/1555 – sleeping bag, CQC, 1983
    CT2A/1682 – rucksack, CQC, 1983
    CT4B/1634 – smock reversible, Vacuum Reflex Ltd, Dec 1983
    CT2B/896 – NBC gloves, S.G. Ltd, packed Feb 1984
    CT2B/1415 – facelet mask, CQC, 1984
    CT4A/1401 – jersey, TWK, 1984
    CT4B/1415 – NBC facelet, Remploy, July 1984
    CT4B/1895 - PVC trousers, ?, June 1984
    CT2B/1528 – NBC suit, Remploy, July 1984, March 1985
    CT4A/1610 – Jersey, heavy wool, Remploy, 1984/85
    CT2B/1528 – NBC trousers, Remploy, 1985
    CT2B/1653 – NBC trousers, Remploy, 1985
    CT2A/2061 – rucksack, CQC, 1984
    CT2A/2630 – NBC overboots, Leyland & B’ham Rubber Company, June 1985
    SL32b/1872 – NBC gloves, S.G. Ltd, packed Dec 1985
    SL32b/1900 – NBC smock, no maker, 1985
    SL31a/1952 – Jersey, J Pick & Sons Ltd, 1983
    SL31b/2385 - PVC trousers, ?, Dec 1985
    SL32b/1981 – NBC gloves, Dipco, 1986
    SL32b/1987 – NBC suit, Remploy, July 1986
    SL32b/1988 – NBC suit, J S & Co (Derby), July 1986
    SL31a/2189 – NBC trousers, Supercraft, packed June 1987
    SL32b/2091 – NBC gloves, S.G. Ltd, packed July 1987
    SL31a/2349 – NBC overboots, LBR, packed July 1987
    SL32b/2389 – Jersey Heavy Wool, J Pick & Sons Ltd, 1987
    SL32b/2450 – visor cover, Helmets Ltd, 1987
    SL31b/2877 – OD foul weather jacket, Mileta Sports Ltd, 1987
    SL32a/3754 – NBC personal protection kit, Remploy, 1987
    SL32a/3891 - sleeping bag liner, ?, June 1987
    SL31a/2441 - chemical casualty bag, ?, packed Dec 1987
    SL31a/2442 – chemical casualty bag, Remploy, Jan 1988
    SL32a/4058 – bergen, CQC, 1988
    SL32a/4261 - various PLCE equipment items, ?, March 1988.
    SL32a/4296 – sleeping bag cover, CQC, 1988
    SL31b/2935 – NBC suit, Remploy, Oct 1988
    SL31b/2935 - NBC trousers, Remploy, Dec 1988
    SL33b/3773 – NBC gloves, S.B. Ltd, packed Mar 1989
    SL33a/4??? – 58 patt pouch, CWL, 1989
    SL32a/4661 – Rucksack long, CWL, 1989
    SL31b/3205 – NBC trousers, Remploy, Dec 1989
    SL31b/3085 – NBC gloves, J North & Sons, 1990
    SL33b/4444 – NBC gloves, C.W.S. Ltd, Feb 1990
    SL33b/4481 – NBC gloves, S.B. Ltd, Feb 1990
    SL32b/5028 – NBC overboots, maker not stated, packed 1990
    SL33c/391 – headover/balaclava, VMC, 1990
    SL32b/5254 – NBC suit, Remploy, Aug 1990, May 1991
    SL3/7/51 – NBC suit, J Compton Sons, packed June 1991
    SL34b/0146 – NBC smock, Remploy, July 1991
    SL32a/4616 – bivouac bag, CQC, 1991
    SL32a/5519 – rifle grenade pouch, CQC, 1991
    SL34b series – 1990 to early/mid 90s (ddpm clothing)
    SL32a/5578 – PLCE side pouch, Remploy, 1991
    SL32a/5578 – PLCE frog, Remploy, 1991
    SL32a/5788 – compression sack for sleeping bag, A.I.L., 1992
    SL34b/0246 – NBC suit, Remploy, 6/92, 10/92 (fabric date 9/91), 3/93
    SL34b/0490 – NBC overboots, bp, packed Nov 1992
    SL32A/5975 – respirator haversack, CWL, 1993
    SL32a/6123 – dpm respirator haversack, Remploy, 1993
    SL32a/6174 – rifle grenade pouch, Jacon, 1993
    SL32a/6320 – dpm PLCE frog, Remploy, 1994
    SL34b/0742 – NBC overboots, LBR, packed Sept 1994
    SL34b/0757 – overalls white, Supercraft, 1994
    ST1A/1292 – NBC suit, LBRCO, 1994
    ST1A/1406 – 2nd patt pre-S95 desert trousers – 1993-1995?
    SL33b/5489 – NBC gloves, OWR-H, packed Jan 1995
    CT/CB 34B/0969 – NBC overboots, maker not stated, March 1995
    SL34b/0281 – NBC gloves, James North & Sons Ltd, packed Nov 94, Apr 95
    CC2/1531 – Soldier 95 ripstop smock, 1995-2000
    CT32A/6688 – SA80 cover, 1995
    CT34B/1036 – NBC overboots, Oct 1995
    CT34B/1039 – gaiters GS, 1995 and 1996
    CT34B/1060 – gaiters GS, 1995
    CT1A/1005 – PLCE belt, Papworth, 1996
    CT1A/1066 – NBC overboots, Oct 1996
    CT1A/1067 – NBC overboots, Nov 1996
    CT1A/1067 – NBC overboots, Acton, Jun 1997
    CT1A/1157 – gaiters GS, 1997
    CT34B/1154 – NBC smock, Remploy, packed Feb 1997
    CT34B/1154 – NBC trousers, Remploy, packed Sept 1997
    ST1A/1197 – NBC inner gloves, Nov 99, Feb 2000
    CT1A/1103 – NBC gloves, Mar 2000
    ST1A/1292 – NBC suit, Remploy, packed Jan 2000; June 2001; Mar 2003
    ST1A/1456 – NBC gloves, Feb 2001
    ST1A/1467 – parachute helmet, 2001
    OC2a/1593 – desert windproof smock, Supercraft (Europe) Ltd, 2002
    OC2a/1614 – desert helmet cover, Supercraft (Europe) Ltd, 2003
    OC2/1534 – vest CS95, 2003
    ST1A/1478 – NBC gloves, 2003
    DC1bESL/0010 - desert windproof smock, Armour Products, 2003
    DC1aESL/0052 – NBC trousers, Remploy, Sept 2003
    CC2/1567 – roll mat, AP Ltd, 2004
    DC1aESL/0014 – Mk6 helmet, 2004
    DC1aESL/0118 – NBC overboots, Silvertown UK Ltd, Dec 2004
    DC1aESL/0156 – PLCE belt, 2004
    DC1a/ESL/0127 – NBC smock, Remploy, 2005
    DC1a/ESL/0151 – rucksack cover, 2005
    DC1a/ESL/0237 – NBC suit, Remploy, Jan 2006
    DC2CESL/3129 – desert windproof smock, Cooneen Watts & Stone, 2006
    DC1BESL/6004 – gloves, combat, 2006
    DC4BESL/1000 – sleeping bag cover, 2006
    CC2/1567 – roll mat, AP Ltd, 2007
    DC2CESL/3154 – small pouch cover, 2007
    DC1BESL/6007 – combat gloves, 2007
    DC1aESL/0369 – gaiters, 2007
    DC1aESL/0391 – desert sheet, J & S Franklin, 2008, 2009
    DC2BESL/1000 - sleeping bag cover, 2009
    DC2CESL/3154 – rucksack covers, 2007, 2008, 2009
    DC2CESL/3129 – windproof smock, CW&S, 2009
    DC2CESL/3129 – desert helmet cover, Cooneen Watts & Stone, 2010
    DC1A/1043 – Arctic sleeping bag, 2010
    DC2B12514 – vest, 2010
    I suspect the A/78/CLO format may have been introduced after the Defence (Transfer of Functions) Act 1964 when "A" signified Army. I notice after that time publications that formerly used a WO Registry File number assumed an "A" prefix as well. Prior to this what was the typical contract prefix?

    I think "GS" is General Stores as I notice the Army Cataloguing Authority combined responsibilities for Clothing & General Stores at Didcot, so one can see the CLO/GS is closely related.

    Contract A/78/CLO//48022/CB(CT)2B (Haversack, Respirator, NBC Mk 2A, 8485-99-137-1438) Dated 1976

    Contract CT4b/1895 (Trouser, Mans, Waterproof, PVC, DP, 8415-99-130-4888)
    dates from 13/6/1984.

    Contract SL31b/2385 (Trouser, Mans, Waterproof, DP, PVC, 8415-99-130-4887)
    dates from 3/12/1985.

    Contract SL32a/3891 (Liner, Sleeping Bag, Long, 8465-99-120-9070)
    dates from 29/6/1987.

    Contract CT2a/2282 (Liner, Sleeping Bag C and GS, NSN NOT SPECIFIED, almost identical to 120-9070 above)
    dates from 31/1/1989.

    Contract CT2a/2228 (Liner, Sleeping Bag C and GS, 8465-99-120-8197)
    prototype submitted 8/3/1984 and assessed on 23/8/1984. (not clear if this was actually approved)

    Contract SL31a/2441 (Bag, Casualty, Chemical Protective MK11, 6530-99-130-6832)
    package dated March 1988, packed December 1987.

    Contract SL31a/2147 (Casualty Bag Chemical Proof Half Mk1 (sic)) (8415-99-132-4882) Spec No. SCRDE/PB/11/77
    submitted 21/4/1986 Approved 29/7/1986

    Contract SL322a/4261 dates from 1/3/1988, consisted of at least 13 items and included:
    Pouch, Water Bottle (8465-99-130-9359) (Item 13 of the contract)
    Yoke, main (8465-99-130-9355)
    Cover, Hand Shovel (8465-99-130-9362)
    Haversack, Respirator (8465-99-130-9357)

    Edited to add more contract dates....and even more.....9/10/2015

    SL31a / 2147 Date 1986 C.Q.C. (Casualty Bag Chemical Proof (sic) Whole, Mk1. 8415-99-132-4881)
    SL32a / 5018 Date 1990 RR. Belt, Waist, Adj. Surely the last 58 pattern belt ever made?
    CT2a / 1763 Date 1983 58 Pattern Ammo Pouch Left, whatever the name is
    SL32a / 5875 Date 1992 REMPLOY. (Belt, Waist, Large, OD IRR, 8465-99-132-1565)
    SL32a / 6121 Date 1993 C.Q.C. (Pouch, Side, Rucksack, DPM IRR 8465-99-132-1555)
    SL32a / 6122 Date 1993 C.W.L. (Carrier, Water canteen, DPM IRR, 8465-99-132-1556)
    SL32a / 6325 Date 1994 Papworth. (Pouch, Ammunition, Universal, DPM IRR, 8465-99-132-1557)
    ST1a / 1444 Date 2001 (Carrier, Entrenching Tool Case, 8465-99-132-1554)
    ST1a / 1510 Date 2003 HFS. (Belt, Waist, Large, OD IRR, 8465-99-132-1565)

    Jacket, Bush, (S.C.C. 19) Green. 1947; 6/CLO/N812/7

    Trousers Protective N.B.C. No. 1 Mk. 2. 1971 (Packed Mar 1972); A/78/CLO/34433/DC69(3)

    Gloves Inner (For Use With Gloves NBC). Packed Dec 1976; A/78/CLO/50168/CB(CT)2B

    Gloves Protective NBC (Outer). Packed Jan 1979 (1978, 8 crossed out, 9 written in); A/78/CLO/53062/CB(CT)2A

    Overboots N.B.C. No.1 Mk. 3 (Fishtail). Packed Feb 1980; CT 2A/237

    Mk II Combat Glove GL 8415 99 978 3712 Size 8 DC2B/2591 2015

    Belt waist 58 pattern and/or belt waist working dress large cn 8465-99-869-3248 ct1a / 1021 1996
    Correct early manufacturers number of CT4b/360..this dates to approx 1980 to 1981..all the pre 1000 numbers are Falklands and before.

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    Useful list!
    In the middle ; Re the comment about the meaning of GS. GS actually means "General Service"

    Regards

    Mark
    "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing he cares more about than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature with no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."

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    US camo, ("private purchased"), in the ÖBH (Österreichisches Bundesheer):Helmets and Camo coversHelmets and Camo coversHelmets and Camo coversHelmets and Camo covers

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    Nice helmet. Rich A. in Pa.
    1969 Shelby GT-500 King of the Road
    Knowledge is power, guard it well.

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    ..some recent additions, mostly from South America. All helmet-less I'm afraid....actually, you know when you just weigh up the time it's gonna take to find the right helmet in storage, take off what's on it, fit the "new" cover, take some pics, swap the covers back, re-store the lid and after all that faff the cover and pattern doesn't change...it simply attracts more "" replies.......

    Helmets and Camo coversHelmets and Camo coversHelmets and Camo coversHelmets and Camo coversHelmets and Camo coversHelmets and Camo coversHelmets and Camo coversHelmets and Camo covers

    ...nicely presented though......

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    Nice covers. Rich A. in Pa.
    1969 Shelby GT-500 King of the Road
    Knowledge is power, guard it well.

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    here's a new one....HELLO!!! ...IS ANYONE THERE ANYMORE?!!!......

    Camopedia suggests this one is Bosnian and a bit special...so I snapped it on a steelie 44 / 59 / 85 or whatever they're called nowadays

    Helmets and Camo covers

    beautiful right?......but what helmet SHOULD it be on please

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