Inside of the holes look just like on the outside. That's why I don't think they're bullet holesby MAP
the second lower hole has some sort of crack around it
The post is in the german helmet section because I didn't know where else to put it
Inside of the holes look just like on the outside. That's why I don't think they're bullet holes
the second lower hole has some sort of crack around it
The post is in the german helmet section because I didn't know where else to put it
I don't think they are bullet holes and look too low and large for a badge of any kind.
Can you show a photo of the inside. I've never seen a Czech helmet with rivets like this, are they just filling the holes of the standard split pins?
My outside bet is that it had a handle fixed to it at some point and used as a scoop or ladle for something.
Steve.
I think that is a very good guess.
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It is a pretty good guess but I don't think this could be used for any ladle other than a spaghetti strainer since there is a hole on the dome, here are some more photos of the inside:
Here is the weird crack on the lower hole:
While we're here, I'd like to mention that this helmet has small strange differences like the rivets being flat and smaller than a Vz.32 or that the chinstrap lugs have no washer
Here is a rivet, it does not have a split end on the inside of the helmet almost like it's been hammered:
Pretty weird that a Czech helmet made it's way here in Macedonia, we never used it and Czechoslovakia was pretty far away
Well, not impossible that it might have started as one of the Yugoslav-made copies of the vz.32, known to collectors if not officially as the 'cacak' helmet, after the place it was made. But none of the images I have seen have the flat heads to the liner pins shown on this one, they all looy very similar if not identical to the Czech original.
here are two references - not a lot more information on the web, but searching for photos will get results -
Yugoslavian M39 "Čačak" helmet
Cacak – Steel Helmets of the World Wars
I am familiar with the Чачак however I originally dismissed it since it is pretty rare
It could very well be yugoslav, especially since both mine and M39 don't gave washers around the liner lugs
As for the flat pins, I cannot find anything relating to Vz or Чачак helmets having flat pins, even post war Vzs don't have them.
They don't look like split pins to me, on the inside of the helm they look like this:
I speculate that the original pins were lost and somebody put these crudely made blobs of steel in their place.
Very confusing...In the thread mentioned in one of the links, a member said : My M39 Çaçak is in distinctly ruinous condition, but one apparent distinguishing feature is that the rivet attaching the chin-strap lug has no washer, unlike Czech-made vz.32s.
So mine would be yougoslavian too according to that...?
Oeps....i made a mistake : in fact, there is a washer in the rivet attaching the chin-strap lug
Late to respond, busy weekend, I keep forgetting about the 'cacak" model. To me it seems that a rivet on the chinstrap fixing is the best identifier (I think it allows it to swivel, more important feature for a helmet with a chin cup).
Because the rivets are hammered tight to the shell, they couldn't have been used to hold anything in place, I think they've been used to block the holes which puts me back to the scoop theory.
Steve.
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