Help with identifying Russian Imperial Shoulder Boards

[Westernhighlander]

Please help ID
I believe all are Imperial Russian except first one which is Ukrainian Nay ....
Thanks

[leforhe74]

yes the first shoulder strap is Ukrainian that is Bandera

[SMERSH]

Where did you buy so much junk? This is Ukrainian folk art! Sewing fakes using some original items. (some stars on shoulder straps are original, some buttons are original, even 1-2 shoulder straps are original) Everything else is fake!

[Westernhighlander]

Thanks for sharing your opinion SMERSH, but you are mistaken.

The Shoulder boards and uniforms (with the exception of the Ukrainian one) are all Imperial Russian and the White Russian Army from the Civil War period ( the skull w/ crossed bones, letter K, red/black boards are Kornilov...).
Always welcome a discussion, but would appreciate a more constructive and educated one.
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[SMERSH]

Thanks for sharing your opinion SMERSH, but you are mistaken.

The Shoulder boards and uniforms (with the exception of the Ukrainian one) are all Imperial Russian and the White Russian Army from the Civil War period ( the skull w/ crossed bones, letter K, red/black boards are Kornilov...).
Always welcome a discussion, but would appreciate a more constructive and educated one.
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It only makes sense to discuss original items! Only this helps in the study of the subject.

Discussing fakes is a waste of time! Arguments and tales about the originality of knowingly fake items are an extra incentive for those who make money on fakes.

Any collector knows this.

Once again - almost all of the items on this topic are fakes! (this is not even props from the film studio - these are just fakes for collectors, I will clarify - for novice collectors)


There are a lot of these fakes on the antique market now!

Look fakes - https://forum.ww2.ru/uploads/monthly...1476636387.jpg

[SMERSH]

Original - http://img.tourister.ru/files/8/4/8/...6/original.jpg

Compare with the fake from this thread!

[Dimas]

Fully agreed, some boards are civil soviet postwar services, some built with the 60’s issued soviet straps. A couple of singles originals, but white army stuff are stinker fakes

[Anderson]

I think you got your "constructive and educated" discussion. That's what you will always get here.

[Westernhighlander]

Posting here was neither constructive nor educational.
Not here to argue. Seeking information or criticism.
Posts not helpful.
Helpful would be providing info on what features are representative of imperial boards, ie dimensions (length,width), etc.

Appears as though the "naval" ones are authentic as are the Kornilov ones. The posts of "fake" Kornilov boards look nothing like these.

The silver one with red piping on the edge is too narrow to be Imperial RRussian and am not sure it's even Russian.

Will seek info elsewhere.

[SMERSH]

Don't waste your time - just return these fakes to the seller! Someone has deceived you, and now you are wasting your precious time trying to originals looking at these fakes ? ... It's a waste of time! These are fakes, and this is a fact.