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SS-knife from Wewelsburg castle

Article about: Hi, Got this knife a while ago, it's made by WMF. Should be genuine, however all opinions are welcome JB

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    Thanks everybody for your comments! It is interesting to read them as the item originally comes from Weitze and they claim to have aquire 180 piece collection of Wewelsburg related cutlery (see attached picture from their website). I guess I will contact them and ask about the items and authenticity of them

    JB
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    Question JB...... They "Weitze" have already decided it was authentic by offering it forsale....why would you inquire on it after you bought the knife and then bring it here ? ...and then want to go back and ask about authenticity?......you know what they are going to tell you..and not going to tell you it's not authentic.

    Why did you come here ...... and its an honest question

    Answers were given to your inquiry from those who study flat ware and accompanying details.

    Your thoughts ?

    Regards Larry
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    I didnt say I bought the item from Weitze, I just know the origins of it. As a beginner collector I just wanted to know more about it and it's origins. I didnt mean to offend anybody, sorry if I did

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    Quote by JBMankinen View Post
    Hi,

    Got this knife a while ago, it's made by WMF. Should be genuine, however all opinions are welcome

    JB
    No offense taken JB..just your post above was a little misleading . and then your recent post stating it came from Weitze ..has had some confusing effect .

    Question again ..did you acquire this from Weitze a long time ago ?
    It is not the size of a Collection in History that matters......Its the size of your Passion for it!! - Larry C

    One never knows what tree roots push to the surface of what laid buried before the tree was planted - Larry C

    “The farther back you can look, the farther forward you are likely to see.” - Winston Churchill

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    Just being devils advocate but Weitze will be selling this stuff on behalf of someone else? Then they are surely going to be led by what the vendor tells them, and then perhaps some research/experience on their part. But given the lack of documentary evidence and mystery surrounding Himmlers SS castle it would be difficult to prove they are real. However the Nirosta (stainless steel, non rusting) mark is period as is the blade maker, the only question mark is the SS markings.

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    Default SS Wewelsburg school cutlery fake or ok?

    Hi Guys
    Im quite new to silverware so please be gentle, im guessing these are wrong as cant find in the book by Yates???
    Thoughts appreciated.
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    Interesting...a Wiking SS stamp with the Wewelsburg name circling it.

    Others will be along shortly to comment further.

    Regards Larry
    It is not the size of a Collection in History that matters......Its the size of your Passion for it!! - Larry C

    One never knows what tree roots push to the surface of what laid buried before the tree was planted - Larry C

    “The farther back you can look, the farther forward you are likely to see.” - Winston Churchill

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    Just my opinion here but the lettering stamped into the Wewelsburg piece posted above
    still looks to have very sharp edges on it as if it was done recently or was never used.

    On the SS spoon that I own, the edges of the letters are smooth and flush to the surface
    of the spoon.
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    Also as a side note, back to the original thread starter in 2017---

    Notice how the makers mark is stamped into the spoon and not engraved or etched.
    gregM
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    For what it's worth, I can't find the style of the OP's knife in Yannes's Encyclopedia....and while he is regarded as a somewhat controversial figure depending on what someone's POV on him his, he is one of the only people that has actually written the literal book on TR silverware. There IS a piece with that maker's mark in use, but the pattern of silver and the inscription/engraving is different.

    Also, for the closest example in the Encyclopedia, the half circle doesn't touch the lettering and the runes are more pronounced...but again, different maker/pattern of silver.

    That's not to say these pieces MAY not be legitimate, as part of the problem is that various gifts of silver were often made to ranking Nazi officials such as Hitler or Goring or organizations that are not documented (ie most of the non-formal/informal Hitler pieces), so it's difficult to prove they're legitimate without some sort of provenance to based it on.

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