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Article about: Cheers for that David, I got the info from the Angolia book, I have seen the post war buckles but with the wear on the buckle and the stiching on the tab to me looked period.

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    Found on the net such buckle. Want to know who had to do, what age and so on.Please identify bucklePlease identify bucklePlease identify buckle

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    What I can tell you is that this is the coat-of-arms of the city of Hamburg.

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    There is one here listed as a post war (FRD) police buckle, maybe they were re using war time leather tabs on the one you listed!...Siegmund Stephan - Militaria - Shop, mail order and retail collectibles business'

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    The buckle is a City of Hamburg fire defence buckle, the coat of arms for the city/state fire defence buckles was introduced in 1934, there were many that did it, Hanover, Hessen, West Falen to name a few
    Ben

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    Quote by Ben Evans View Post
    The buckle is a City of Hamburg fire defence buckle, the coat of arms for the city/state fire defence buckles was introduced in 1934, there were many that did it, Hanover, Hessen, West Falen to name a few
    Interesting and that explains the war time tab. Not to doubt you Ben but i thought fire defense etc would be using TR insignia, or could cities/states "opt out" and use their own designs such as this one?...

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    But surely, the state buckles for the firefighting services had long since been discontinued by 1941 and replaced by the standard "Gott mit uns" Police pattern?

    So, is this a pre-1937 buckle re-used in the post-war years or an early post-war buckle (in either case, fitted with a leather tab of wartime manufacture)?

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    I would presume so, the stitching on the tab looks period with the three ply thread and consistent wear, if used in WW2 and in Hamburg I would imagine it got a lot of use as the allies bombed the crap out of Hamburg.
    Ben

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    I also think CTD could have made the buckle, compare the catch with these marked ones
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    Actually Ben, I have never regarded this buckle as a "pure" Fire Defense type. The city of Hamburg had a long tradition of granting permission for their coat of arms to be displayed on a buckle, to be worn by civil employees and in order to instill a feeling of association, worth and civic pride by the wearer. The subject buckle may at some time have been worn by members of the cities Fire Defense, although I think that it is the final pattern for that as civil employees related and was probably produced and worn, post 1945.

    Not at all uncommon to see a leather tongue attached, although one clearly marked as 1940's is a first for myself at least. Usually and instead, the leather tongues are dated late 1930's.

    Regards,

    David

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