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03-10-2024 06:49 AM
# ADS
Circuit advertisement
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Fantastic find, Andy!
That is one superb piece of kit.
The canvas itself looks to be in remarkably sound condition. I’m always amazed at how well the leather of the later model survives, but the canvas mask tends to be far more fragile. A rare surviving example, indeed!
With the later canister, it seems this one saw continued use.
Well done!
Rob.
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Kohima
Fantastic find, Andy!
That is one superb piece of kit.
The canvas itself looks to be in remarkably sound condition. I’m always amazed at how well the leather of the later model survives, but the canvas mask tends to be far more fragile. A rare surviving example, indeed!
With the later canister, it seems this one saw continued use.
Well done!
Rob.
Thanks Rob!
Yes, still quite supple and in great condition. I’m still trying to ascertain the differences between the M15 carrying can and the M17 as I think they were quite supple. The mask fits well inside the tin, so I agree with you that the mask was likely issued with the tin and used later in the war. Means also that I could use it for a few different displays as these were worn with Pickelhaubes and steel helmets.
Thanks,
Andy
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Kohima
I think your canister is of the later (final?) pattern, as it has the lens box in the lid, rather than the initial wire frame basket.
Baldwin points to flat bar strap bales pre-dating the round wire type, though my canister (dated 3 Juli 1917), has these ‘early’ bars and ‘late’ lens box - thus, I suspect this is more likely a manufacturer’s variation, rather than a deliberate detail change.
Is there any hint of the date ink stamp to the base of your canister?
Yes, definitely an M17 can Rob. I just wonder if the M17 was ever paired with the earlier type of mask? They do seem to fit quite well together. I have another example of an M17 can which is really cool as it’s named to “Rottig”, in multiple places. See below.
M17 Ledermaske named to Rottig
I’ve left the Rottig named example in the tin. The images with the M17 Ledermaske are with another example that I have. I find these to be one of the more iconic pieces of WW1 German soldier equipment. There were also wooden ersatz carrying cans but I’ve only ever seen one for sale.
Yours is a nice looking can. Thanks for showing! There are no markings on the tin in this post, however the other tin has an illegible stamp and perhaps some numbers on the bottom. See below.
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