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Article about: Hello! I reckon this in my possession is an M1874 shovel, "IDEAL" mark, in good condition it seems, I can't figure out the cover, is it possible those rivets were added when repurp

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    Hello! I reckon this in my possession is an M1874 shovel, "IDEAL" mark, in good condition it seems, I can't figure out the cover, is it possible those rivets were added when repurposing it for ww2? No markings that I could find on the cover, some faint numbers on the back (maybe). Please feel free to correct me on anything, thank you!M1874 e-tool, please help with the coverM1874 e-tool, please help with the cover M1874 e-tool, please help with the coverM1874 e-tool, please help with the coverM1874 e-tool, please help with the coverM1874 e-tool, please help with the cover

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    Just a bump to see if anyone has info

    Nice looking tool. But not something I know about
    "Please", Thank You" and proper manners appreciated

    My greatest fear is that one day I will die and my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them

    "Don't tell me these are investments if you never intend to sell anything" (Quote: Wife)

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    Thank you!

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    Quote by JiiR View Post
    Thank you!
    Spades and covers are always a bit tricky as there are so many types from all countries that fought in the Great War, and of those examples many are very similar. Not having any markings does make things a little more challenging. The cover does not strike me as Imperial German equipment, however I have seen some Austrian examples with similar rivets, so that may be a place to start some online investigation. Bearing in mind WW1 and WW2 covers are also similar. Sorry I can’t be of any further assistance.

    Andy

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    This probably will not help, but here is an old thread on etools, mostly German WW2

    Military Entrenching Tools and Shovels
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    My greatest fear is that one day I will die and my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them

    "Don't tell me these are investments if you never intend to sell anything" (Quote: Wife)

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    Looks Austrian, but since the buckle is on the right not the left, I'm leaning that it could be post war like East German. The buckle should be on the left. Also you won't see the extra buckle piece on a WW1 German carrier. The ones that have been refurbished will have the stitching holes still visible.

    Here is my Imperial German cover:

    M1874 e-tool, please help with the cover

    One similar to yours (but buckle on the left):

    M1874 e-tool, please help with the cover
    M1874 e-tool, please help with the cover

    A Finnish carrier, rivets are a bit different and the back is attached separately:

    M1874 e-tool, please help with the cover
    M1874 e-tool, please help with the cover
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    Last edited by Rick19; 06-06-2024 at 08:55 PM.

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    I was originally focused on the cover but now taking the whole set into account, I believe they are both post war.
    The Idealspaten with flat ears, makes me feel that way.

    Idealspaten is still in business today, but most of their products are marketed to the civilian sector.

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