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04-28-2024 02:30 PM
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Hi John,
Quick reply as I guess you might be in a bit of a hurry.
The bayonet looks good to me from these pics and I think the unit marking is for the Oppeln district in Silesia (now Poland).
I would say that the Wappen (emblem) has definitely been de-nazified unless it was accidentally struck a hard glancing blow in use. The doesn't look at all like gradual wear to me, it was done in one go I feel.
The difference between slotted an un-slotted is that when originally made they were intended for the rifle but later they were made without the slot because it was redundant and therefore unnecessary expense.
The one you show seems to have a functioning bayonet release catch which was also deleted on later specifically made models. The difference between long or short is that long tends to be early, they were originally cut down from earlier bayonets. As later purpose specific items were made from scratch the blade length became reduced.
In use the slotted type had a felt pad inserted in the slot. Red for Municipal and green for rural police.
In short, I feel that is probably a reasonable price for a de-nazified piece that doesn't seem to have any other issues I can see in these pics.
Regards
Mark
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing he cares more about than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature with no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
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Thank you Mark. I am going to back to the table to pick up, likely still there as it is pretty slow today. I will post better picks after I bring home.
John
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There are quite a few threads on the subject on the forum.
This one has some nice examples;
Gendarmerie bayonet, slotted version by P.D. Luneschloss
My own is in post#
Regards
Mark
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing he cares more about than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature with no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
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Its a correct one shortage, most real denazified, in case it was still in area of east germany or Poland , Schutzpolizei Oppeln i assume and IV.district. Frog looks like for extra piece.
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The positives are Polizei marks for bayonet and scabbard match, many examples don't. Denazification of the badge are not so commonly seen so suggests the original owner or family held on to it for a while, before selling. It's reasonably tidy condition and it's a cut down example so was originally issued during the Weimar Republic. Given all that I would think the quoted price is reasonable.
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In my opinion the frog is a later addition. There are two dimples in the leather, caused by grip rivets. The shape of and the distance between the dimples appear not to match the rivets in the grip of this bayonet. I also believe I see part of a waffled imprint, caused by the grip of a standard army dress bayonet, which confirms the opinion of AndyB.
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I am at a local show and with a Sunday price reduction. I could but this one for $375.00 US and would be my first one.
Does the maker of these have much impact?
Hi John depending upon the rarity or less seen producers it could impact the price but by very little IMO....yet there are those collectors that collect by the police markings seen on the crossguard...which the SA dagger collector enjoys with seeing rarer type Gruppe marks....so I feel you done extremely well with this Polizei bayo with its details and price
Regards Larry
It is not the size of a Collection in History that matters......Its the size of your Passion for it!!
- Larry C
“The farther back you can look, the farther forward you are likely to see.” - Winston Churchill
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Yep, looks like a bit of a bargain really!
The leather of the scabbard seems to be black. If so then a piece of thick crimson felt would be appropriate for the slot. If it were brown (and it would be obviously brown it would be green.
Regards
Mark
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing he cares more about than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature with no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
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