Track links and return wheels

[Datrus]

Hello guys

I hope some experts can help me out with these questions.

I have found a number of these track links in Bryansk. I thought it was Panzer III track links, but they do not look like the type of links i have found on the net. What tyoe of links is it?

Also these return wheels is very hard to identify. Rubber is missing for some reason.

Thanks a lot cool militaria

[Datrus]

No track experts??

[Datrus]

Somebody?

[talltom]

the rubber will have perished they look to me to be modern day not ww2 the tracks i would have also guessed panzer3

[Datrus]

Thanks a lot for the input Tom. Especially regarding the wheels. I think they look a bit strange, but i am quite sure they are WW2. Maybe they are post war origin, but how the hell did they end up in the forest? The "cut outs" in the have a not typically WW2 look.

[steverobertsbbc]

The link shown in the lower two photos is from a British Valentine tank or derivatives (eg Archer self-propelled gun), which were supplied to the Russian army during the war. The link at the top I'm still looking for, but I think I've chased that type before without success. It's definitely not from a Panzer III though!

[StuG III]

I cannot match the track or wheels to anything either, at least not German.
Tom

[steverobertsbbc]

Can we have some more photos of the top link please, from various angles and also with a tape measure so that we can see the dimensions?

[steverobertsbbc]

I knew I'd seen this before, but we couldn't work out what it was then either!

Unbekanntes Kettenglied - Militaria Fundforum

[Datrus]

Thanks a lot guys. I will try to get new pics. Im in center of Moscow, and the links is a little bit of way out of town. I'm really thankful for you answers mates.